Message from @Dusty Morgan

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2018-10-27 16:49:39 UTC  

thats a left-wing lie they tell us

2018-10-27 16:49:39 UTC  

Depends on which Republican
I want to say depends on which Dem as well but I'm drawing blanks tbh

2018-10-27 16:49:44 UTC  

Trump does advocate for violence against those who disagree with him

2018-10-27 16:49:48 UTC  

socialism and national socialism are on the left

2018-10-27 16:49:53 UTC  

In his own televised rallies

2018-10-27 16:49:56 UTC  

I advocate

2018-10-27 16:49:59 UTC  

For dabs on the haters

2018-10-27 16:50:47 UTC  

No, national socialism as developed in the early 1900's was the right's answer to Marxism

2018-10-27 16:50:54 UTC  

Oh yeah... to the same extent that the far left and democrats do. I highly doubt it... he mostly been talking about how they incompetent in the rallies. He says stupid shit in attempt to joke, but fails and the media spins it to sound like he is calling for violence.

2018-10-27 16:50:56 UTC  

Wholy crap I got an ad for something other than CRTV on one of Tim's videos.

2018-10-27 16:51:06 UTC  

Dude... have you really looked at the full videos of the rally.

2018-10-27 16:51:09 UTC  

Mussolini and Hitler were vehemently anti communist

2018-10-27 16:51:19 UTC  

Not all socialists are communist

2018-10-27 16:51:26 UTC  

I watch the whole video and they take his speech, chop it up... then spin it in a way that look hateful.

2018-10-27 16:51:34 UTC  

Say what you will about the tenets of national socialism, at least it's an ethos.

2018-10-27 16:51:50 UTC  

Now we got a whole ton of far left screaming for his head, while he is trying to say we must come together. There is too much hate.

2018-10-27 16:51:53 UTC  

and they are both authoritarian bullcrap that gets people killed.

2018-10-27 16:52:14 UTC  

If you want to look at the people who is advocating hate... look at the media.

2018-10-27 16:52:15 UTC  

What is the core difference between socialism and fascism? Almost everything people name on the fascist side also occurred on the socialist one

2018-10-27 16:52:38 UTC  

the main difference is who they think it should apply to really

2018-10-27 16:52:46 UTC  

They are recklessly working towards more views, more clicks, more ratings.

2018-10-27 16:52:49 UTC  

National socialism was the state above all. The state could use whatever economic means it wanted to run the country or maintain power. It was all about power. Economics were secondary.

2018-10-27 16:52:55 UTC  

They don't care about what they have to do, they want that clicks and ratings.

2018-10-27 16:52:57 UTC  

My understanding is they are highly similar, but change where they draw divides between groups.

2018-10-27 16:53:10 UTC  

i agree

2018-10-27 16:53:24 UTC  

Socialism is class vs class, fascism is nation vs nation.

2018-10-27 16:53:27 UTC  

Communism was all about communal ownership of capital. The core was economic and politics and the state were secondary. In fact the state was to become irrelevant.

2018-10-27 16:53:29 UTC  

Your economy is a measure of power ultimately

2018-10-27 16:53:42 UTC  

@Grenade123 actually i think national socialism is branded on the right, cuz they have a system of high state + a heirarchy of People -> Leaders -> Fuhrer

And both a large state + heirarchy are right-wing traits on the 1D spectrum

2018-10-27 16:53:46 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/463054787336732683/505786198275522590/unknown.png

2018-10-27 16:53:52 UTC  

socialism and fascism are only seperated by one thing

2018-10-27 16:54:16 UTC  

The goal of a socialist state is to consolidate economic power, potentially for the purpose of bringing about a communist state

2018-10-27 16:54:18 UTC  

Socialism is about class, and Fascism is about race and class

2018-10-27 16:54:26 UTC  

Yes

2018-10-27 16:54:37 UTC  

How so, codes?

2018-10-27 16:54:37 UTC  

actually, depends. IT was really hitler that cared about race

2018-10-27 16:54:38 UTC  

There were also racial/ethnic elements in socialist States though

2018-10-27 16:54:46 UTC  

Italian fascism was not about race as much

2018-10-27 16:54:52 UTC  

then why does the current wave of socialists care so much about segregation?

2018-10-27 16:54:56 UTC  

Where fascism and communism match is that the individual is irrelevant. the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the one.

2018-10-27 16:54:59 UTC  

I was unaware of an intrinsic class divide in fascist theory.