@Atkins didn’t they tell you? Russian bot = nazi = mysogonist = racist = trumpist.

can we switch from left and right to Authoritarian and Libertarian? Because then the Communists and Nazis end up on the same side of the equation where they belong.

I mean, they probably wouldn't care that Jews ran the world if they did things they liked.

*Jooz

Well that's the thing. I don't think "the political right" is a good faith categorization to be perfectly honest

I'm libertarian. Unfortunately, the Republican AND Democratic Platforms are Authoritarian.

the extremes both are

thats why i think we should switch

The left is already trying to blame this on Trump.

Both the Republicans and Democrats scream about liberty, but only liberty to live the way they do

"Lets be incivil to non-democrats"
"Trump is responsible for violence"

I don't get why socialist is on the left but NATIONAL socialist is suddenly on the other end of the spectrum.

thats a left-wing lie they tell us

Depends on which Republican
I want to say depends on which Dem as well but I'm drawing blanks tbh

Trump does advocate for violence against those who disagree with him

socialism and national socialism are on the left

In his own televised rallies

I advocate

For dabs on the haters

No, national socialism as developed in the early 1900's was the right's answer to Marxism

Oh yeah... to the same extent that the far left and democrats do. I highly doubt it... he mostly been talking about how they incompetent in the rallies. He says stupid shit in attempt to joke, but fails and the media spins it to sound like he is calling for violence.

Wholy crap I got an ad for something other than CRTV on one of Tim's videos.

Dude... have you really looked at the full videos of the rally.

Mussolini and Hitler were vehemently anti communist

Not all socialists are communist

I watch the whole video and they take his speech, chop it up... then spin it in a way that look hateful.

Say what you will about the tenets of national socialism, at least it's an ethos.

Now we got a whole ton of far left screaming for his head, while he is trying to say we must come together. There is too much hate.

and they are both authoritarian bullcrap that gets people killed.

If you want to look at the people who is advocating hate... look at the media.

What is the core difference between socialism and fascism? Almost everything people name on the fascist side also occurred on the socialist one

the main difference is who they think it should apply to really

They are recklessly working towards more views, more clicks, more ratings.

National socialism was the state above all. The state could use whatever economic means it wanted to run the country or maintain power. It was all about power. Economics were secondary.

They don't care about what they have to do, they want that clicks and ratings.

My understanding is they are highly similar, but change where they draw divides between groups.

i agree

Socialism is class vs class, fascism is nation vs nation.

Communism was all about communal ownership of capital. The core was economic and politics and the state were secondary. In fact the state was to become irrelevant.

Your economy is a measure of power ultimately

@Grenade123 actually i think national socialism is branded on the right, cuz they have a system of high state + a heirarchy of People -> Leaders -> Fuhrer

And both a large state + heirarchy are right-wing traits on the 1D spectrum