V, that explains theyve become heavily invested in the political sphere. A common view and tactic used by socialists, communists and anti trumpers is to not debate an issue because "cant lose a debate if you dont have a debate"

Socialism is far left though

It's not just left

Damn you and I have a very differnet scale when it comes to political leaning

The US is right wing compared Europe. But most politicial parties are authoritarian, basically by nature.

V your geting trolled

@Grenade123 Amen

Social policies is left wing

I wish he was codes

Sorry people aren't meeting your demand for academic circlejerking debate

@xmrsmoothx If you read what I said you would have read that I tried talking to leftists but consistently none of them were able to or wanted to challenge/defend their stances

But I can find articles and videos to support this idea if youd like

@>_ Didn't you say you just talked to hardline democrats and normie liberals?

You know... not any actual leftists?

I'm refering to a broad spectrum.

Get out of here commie

The only way to fight against their authoritarian nature without outright open conflict is to keep then struggling for power between themselves.

I think there is a point here that you guys have very different definitions of what makes a left and right wing?

@Blackhawk342 great argument my dude, I am destroyed by facts and logic

Socialists and communists dont own the term lefist

Just like how facists and reactionaries dont own the term rightist

I still think its crazy that Hillary could be considered right wing

When both political parties truly align, we get the Patriot act

I mean sure, authoritarian.

I had friends from main stream democrats to prominent activists and protestors. With everything in between. None of them wanted to challenge or test their beliefs.

@xmrsmoothx

@xmrsmoothx

Then again, trump is somewhat authoritharian

But even the authoritharian - libertarian axis isnt a left right thing

@>_ So, like... any actual leftists? Like, people that are further left than the democratic party?

Yeah

Like flat out communists

and socialists

who have been my friends for a while

That I used to discuss with openly growing up

And they wouldn't debate with you? That's funny.

They wouldn't. Ever.

Not past their talking points.

To be honest

Once they hit a wall they refused to go further.

Most of my friends have been very open to discussion, though 90% of them are center - something