Sorry people aren't meeting your demand for academic circlejerking debate

@xmrsmoothx If you read what I said you would have read that I tried talking to leftists but consistently none of them were able to or wanted to challenge/defend their stances

But I can find articles and videos to support this idea if youd like

@>_ Didn't you say you just talked to hardline democrats and normie liberals?

You know... not any actual leftists?

I'm refering to a broad spectrum.

Get out of here commie

The only way to fight against their authoritarian nature without outright open conflict is to keep then struggling for power between themselves.

I think there is a point here that you guys have very different definitions of what makes a left and right wing?

@Blackhawk342 great argument my dude, I am destroyed by facts and logic

Socialists and communists dont own the term lefist

Just like how facists and reactionaries dont own the term rightist

I still think its crazy that Hillary could be considered right wing

When both political parties truly align, we get the Patriot act

I mean sure, authoritarian.

I had friends from main stream democrats to prominent activists and protestors. With everything in between. None of them wanted to challenge or test their beliefs.

@xmrsmoothx

@xmrsmoothx

Then again, trump is somewhat authoritharian

But even the authoritharian - libertarian axis isnt a left right thing

@>_ So, like... any actual leftists? Like, people that are further left than the democratic party?

Yeah

Like flat out communists

and socialists

who have been my friends for a while

That I used to discuss with openly growing up

And they wouldn't debate with you? That's funny.

They wouldn't. Ever.

Not past their talking points.

To be honest

Once they hit a wall they refused to go further.

Most of my friends have been very open to discussion, though 90% of them are center - something

Normal people are not the sort to go "hey I want to talk to someone I disagree with"

If they didn't have a talking point to respond to me with it was just radio silence.

Most people I've known seem to hate arguing about almost anything. And if you have a better term for it than "argument" that is more accurate please advise.

I still think its just most people

@Beef Taquitos discuss, talk

Discussion Beef

Most people dislike conflict

No, that's not more accurate.

Why not?