Message from @PerformedShelf
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they're both right wing
Honestly
How the hell is capitalism=right wing
Financial isnt a partisan issue
@GingaBomber hillary is closer to the center by being a millimeter to the left
People who care about politics just aren't busy enough
true
By being open borders, pro socialized health care and increased taxes?
Like I would go into an issue to discuss something and why people believe what they believe but when talking to leftists they only responded with talking points. When I pressed further they always just walked away from the conversation. Then they started reacting more negatively towards me in general for ever even questioning and asking them to defend their positions.
@Abel as I see it, the left-right spectrum is in general capitalism vs socialism
Where libertarians and ancaps gladly discussed with me for hours and defended/tested their positions.
@GingaBomber yes
And a 180 on most shit is only 1mm?
@>_ Why didn't you talk to any leftists?
V, that explains theyve become heavily invested in the political sphere. A common view and tactic used by socialists, communists and anti trumpers is to not debate an issue because "cant lose a debate if you dont have a debate"
Socialism is far left though
It's not just left
Damn you and I have a very differnet scale when it comes to political leaning
The US is right wing compared Europe. But most politicial parties are authoritarian, basically by nature.
V your geting trolled
Social policies is left wing
I wish he was codes
Sorry people aren't meeting your demand for academic circlejerking debate
@xmrsmoothx If you read what I said you would have read that I tried talking to leftists but consistently none of them were able to or wanted to challenge/defend their stances
But I can find articles and videos to support this idea if youd like
@>_ Didn't you say you just talked to hardline democrats and normie liberals?
You know... not any actual leftists?
I'm refering to a broad spectrum.
Get out of here commie
The only way to fight against their authoritarian nature without outright open conflict is to keep then struggling for power between themselves.
I think there is a point here that you guys have very different definitions of what makes a left and right wing?
@Blackhawk342 great argument my dude, I am destroyed by facts and logic
Socialists and communists dont own the term lefist
Just like how facists and reactionaries dont own the term rightist
I still think its crazy that Hillary could be considered right wing
When both political parties truly align, we get the Patriot act
I mean sure, authoritarian.
I had friends from main stream democrats to prominent activists and protestors. With everything in between. None of them wanted to challenge or test their beliefs.