I mean to be fair the article does state that it happened under the Obama admin

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these wholesome levels are far over the legal limit

you're going to have to come with me

blow into the device sir

sir you have a .09% BWC (blood wholesome concentration) you're going to jail

@An Elbow lmfao this video is so bad it's good

dude I'm totally against political correctness but this is super cringe <:HappyPepe:475768622002864148>

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that's like saying we need to take the world "autism" back

@Brentkil what in god's gravy is this?

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National socialism has nothing to do with marxist socialism

rights don't exist

just let them yeetus the featus

baby won't suffer if you delete it

deletus the fetus

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Huzzuh a man if quality.

it's 2019

stop being an ancap

what if someone

does do those things?

arrested?

it seems like we're already departing from anarchism

who pays for the cops?

we can call them whatever you want

I just want to know who pays them

so what is the effective difference between me paying the state, and the state policing an area

and me paying for a PMC to do it?

and what if there are no good PMCs

or

what if these independent militarized organizations decide to threaten me if I don't pay up

after all, that's how criminal organizations operate when they provide protection

And that strategy seems to be quite effective, even when the state is present.

it's a troll and ur falling for it

so anyway

why would PMCs not adopt the same tactics that criminal organizations have?

just mute him

hold down over the profile picture

touch the three dots

and hit block

my two main questions: why wouldn't PMCs adopt the same tactics that criminal organizations do? And what do I do when no good PMCs are available, or I can't pay for them.

@Alexstrasza private military company

wait these questions aren't complicated

sure go ahead

```State is the biggest criminal organization```

So this can be your point of view, but it doesn't answer the question. How would getting rid of the largest criminal organization, prevent PMCs from becoming large criminal organizations themselves just like the mob and the cartels have done for years?

That might happen, but there's historical evidence which suggests otherwise.

Look at America under prohibition. """Defense contractors""" or the "Mob" came in, offered protection, and fucked over anyone who wouldn't comply.

And they ran their own little pocket of the country.

Look at the cartels, look at the pirates and mercenaries in northern Africa.

When these groups swoop in, the most profitable strategy is never the NAP

it's being the baddest violent organization around, and compelling everyone you can to contribute to your cause under threat of violence

@Ocarao We don't know,.

Maybe their money comes from selling narcotics

maybe there money comes from pressuring ordinary people into paying under threat of violence

No these people can't defend themselves against a violent organization.

Making narcotics legal is a great way to reduce violence, but that research only exists in countries with a functioning state.

If you remove the state, we have no idea how these substances will contribute to negative behavior

but it doesn't have to be drugs

it could be anything, Amazon could start it's own PMC

Apple could start it's own police service

The problem is, why would you want to be forced to pay for services by amazon, instead of the state?

Both can compel you to pay.

yes they will

when they hold a gun to your head

When amazon holds a gun to your head, you'll buy their product, just like when the state does it.

Why the fuck should Amazon respect the NAP?

If you have the most guns, the NAP doesn't matter.

That's why the State doesn't respect the NAP

If what you said was true, people would already be boycotting the state.

Hell, people can literally vote for who they want to run the state, there is no indication that the state will respect the NAP any time soon.

The state isn't

Because you can move to another state.

I'm not going to read a book unless you can give me a good argument.

People can already move to a different country if theirs isn't respecting the NAP enough 😭

you did

as an individual

but people tend not to

indicating that people would tend to roll over when the Amazon death squads roll up

And what's to stop Amazon from setting up boundaries?

I rest my case.

Any tactic the state can use, companies can and *will* use to maximize their profits.

There's a reason states are so dominant.

@Ocarao it is

that's why the state does it

that's why cartels do it

that's why warlords do it

so long as there is profit to be made, they will engage in this behavior, and have

@valeriaa get

in here

debate me on candycorn

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bros it's 2020

how are y'all not pro choice yet

what is the actual alternative to corporate welfare for scenarious like this one?

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