its a little worse than that, as anyone that disagrees with feminism on any level is a Satanic Nazi that wants to eat babies and burn society to the ground

either you agree with Feminism or you are evil incarnate and everything possible is justifiable to suppress you

Pretty much

MRAs are much more open to discussion than feminists. Why do you think feminist subreddits have (some directly, some indirectly) anti-feminist policies?

its because we know our positions are rational and fact based

in a fair and open debate, feminists know they wouldnt do well

I disagree

They know how to debate

It usually isn’t using facts though

Actually some feminists admit this.

I was listening to Angela Nagle on a podcast. She admitted that feminists generally are not willing to debate anymore. There was that famous debate with Norman Mailer that is generally seen as making feminists look good. She lamented the fact that feminists aren't willing to engage in that kind of debate anymore. She said privately when she brings it up with other feminists they say they admit they don't feel confident enough in their knowledge and don't want to wind up looking stupid.

". She said privately when she brings it up with other feminists they say they admit they don't feel confident enough in their knowledge and don't want to wind up looking stupid."

this is SO telling

Yeah , it is haha.

Feminist theories dont stand up to scrutiny or debate. That's why they shut down anything they remotely see as dissent. Is it any wonder that feminists are afraid of expressing a 'wrong' opinion to anyone, even each other?

I don't know if I can agree with you guys. While most feminists will shut you up because you're "mansplaining", I've had a few that are pretty good at debating.

too bad that they revert to attacking you

I gave up attempting to debate with Feminists because they refused to look at any of the information/statistics I provided and at the same time demanded I back up absolutely every claim/piece of information I presently

they make you work 4 times as hard and then refuse to even acknowledge your side of the arguement

its incredibly frustrating and demeaning

dont even bother

that's an arguing tactic @Maxthx

so is spitting in someone's face

naw, that's leaving the debate

I'll have to mention that the next time someone spits in my face

lol

>they refused to look at any of the information/statistics I provided and at the same time demanded I back up absolutely every claim/piece of information I presently

Yeah, the feminist is controlling you, you shouldn't let that happen. They bring up their point and they don't provide evidence, call em out on it. They ask you to verify your sources. Literally disregard it like they disregard MRAs proving the wage gap false.

Yeah, I mean I usually just say like

I've provided a source. If you doubt the source prove it false. Especially since they have not backed up any of their statements with any sources at all typically.

Like the default is supposed to be: women are most oppressed in every way, shape, or form. Any deviation from that requires ironclad statistics from feminist approved sources.

Anyone who has spent any time working on these things knows it doesn't work that way. Social sciences, public policy, etc. are all guided by conflicting "facts" brought to light by various interest groups.

Feminism also has a few decades worth of dominance in academia to make it seem more correct.

This kind of ideology always tries to legitimise itself by infiltrating science via the social side. Scientific racism started the same way.

https://www.reddit.com/r/FeMRADebates/comments/arnhv8/can_feminism_and_the_mrm_coexist/

This topic is similar to the questions being discussed here yesterday

I don't think so.

Feminism, at this moment, is directed against men and aims to give women more power.

Therefore, unless that changes, will always go against what the MRA strive for. Equal rights for men and women.

I agree, I mean, I describe myself as an anti-feminist. Of course if feminism were to suddenly start being a fair minded, logical ideology, that could change, but there's no way there can be peace between feminists and the MRM with feminism in its current form

exactly, we arent against womens rights, we are against feminism because what they ACTUALLY SAY AND DO isnt equality. we wouldnt oppose them if they really were about fairness

wwe are forced to do what we do