Would he get the same sympathy as Lorena

Of course not.

If feminists have such a hard time condemning Lorena, they shouldn't be surprised people view their movement as hateful toward men.

They are a unrecognized hate group

That is true.

im subbed there but dont go on much

doesnt seem to be very productive, but i havent checked in a while

Well, the mods are feminists. They claim they have to come down hard on MRAs to "balance" things due to a perceived lack of feminist perspective. The feminist posters are generally pretty strident and not really open to conceding anything.

They don't want open dialogue

They want controlled dialog

Pretty much

They wonder why men don't like them

It's the same for any of these attempts to bring feminists and MRAs or non feminists into some kind of dialogue. Feminists quickly dominate the conversation, object to the terms of debate as soon as something comes up they don't want to discuss

Also, what incentive is there for a feminist to debate anything? As they see it there's nothing to debate about feminism, it's already perfect and irrefutable. Maybe there can be debates within feminism (about trans women, etc.) but that's it.

its a little worse than that, as anyone that disagrees with feminism on any level is a Satanic Nazi that wants to eat babies and burn society to the ground

either you agree with Feminism or you are evil incarnate and everything possible is justifiable to suppress you

Pretty much

MRAs are much more open to discussion than feminists. Why do you think feminist subreddits have (some directly, some indirectly) anti-feminist policies?

its because we know our positions are rational and fact based

in a fair and open debate, feminists know they wouldnt do well

I disagree

They know how to debate

It usually isn’t using facts though

Actually some feminists admit this.

I was listening to Angela Nagle on a podcast. She admitted that feminists generally are not willing to debate anymore. There was that famous debate with Norman Mailer that is generally seen as making feminists look good. She lamented the fact that feminists aren't willing to engage in that kind of debate anymore. She said privately when she brings it up with other feminists they say they admit they don't feel confident enough in their knowledge and don't want to wind up looking stupid.

". She said privately when she brings it up with other feminists they say they admit they don't feel confident enough in their knowledge and don't want to wind up looking stupid."

this is SO telling

Yeah , it is haha.

Feminist theories dont stand up to scrutiny or debate. That's why they shut down anything they remotely see as dissent. Is it any wonder that feminists are afraid of expressing a 'wrong' opinion to anyone, even each other?

I don't know if I can agree with you guys. While most feminists will shut you up because you're "mansplaining", I've had a few that are pretty good at debating.

too bad that they revert to attacking you

I gave up attempting to debate with Feminists because they refused to look at any of the information/statistics I provided and at the same time demanded I back up absolutely every claim/piece of information I presently

they make you work 4 times as hard and then refuse to even acknowledge your side of the arguement

its incredibly frustrating and demeaning

dont even bother

that's an arguing tactic @Maxthx

so is spitting in someone's face

naw, that's leaving the debate

I'll have to mention that the next time someone spits in my face

lol

>they refused to look at any of the information/statistics I provided and at the same time demanded I back up absolutely every claim/piece of information I presently

Yeah, the feminist is controlling you, you shouldn't let that happen. They bring up their point and they don't provide evidence, call em out on it. They ask you to verify your sources. Literally disregard it like they disregard MRAs proving the wage gap false.