Message from @Bobby_Hill
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I will say that no one really seems very happy with dating. Both women and men seem to be complaining about the others standards and feel frustrated.
I believe our standards have increased in this tinder/grindr/instagram era
Yeah, and most interactions on the apps are short term. People ghost quickly, etc.
Yeah for sure
There is little incentive to stay with the same person when you know you can just replace them easily with the next person in line
Yeah, and when do you stop? The grass is always greener.
Exactly
We leave good to find better and sometimes stay with bad in fear of finding worse
But thats just my 2 dollars on the subject
Yeah, definitely true
Thanks for joining my TED talk
Speaking of debate, do any of you post on /r/femradebates ?
I dont post there but I like checking it
Same, it's kind of difficult to engage with heavily.
Yeah, true
You have to be approved to post there. I am approved, but I haven't actually posted anything
I wonder what would happen if a abused boyfriend shoved a electric turkey carver into his SO's cooter?
Would he get the same sympathy as Lorena
Of course not.
If feminists have such a hard time condemning Lorena, they shouldn't be surprised people view their movement as hateful toward men.
That is true.
im subbed there but dont go on much
doesnt seem to be very productive, but i havent checked in a while
Well, the mods are feminists. They claim they have to come down hard on MRAs to "balance" things due to a perceived lack of feminist perspective. The feminist posters are generally pretty strident and not really open to conceding anything.
They don't want open dialogue
They want controlled dialog
Pretty much
They wonder why men don't like them
It's the same for any of these attempts to bring feminists and MRAs or non feminists into some kind of dialogue. Feminists quickly dominate the conversation, object to the terms of debate as soon as something comes up they don't want to discuss
Also, what incentive is there for a feminist to debate anything? As they see it there's nothing to debate about feminism, it's already perfect and irrefutable. Maybe there can be debates within feminism (about trans women, etc.) but that's it.
its a little worse than that, as anyone that disagrees with feminism on any level is a Satanic Nazi that wants to eat babies and burn society to the ground
either you agree with Feminism or you are evil incarnate and everything possible is justifiable to suppress you
Pretty much
MRAs are much more open to discussion than feminists. Why do you think feminist subreddits have (some directly, some indirectly) anti-feminist policies?
its because we know our positions are rational and fact based
in a fair and open debate, feminists know they wouldnt do well
I disagree
They know how to debate
It usually isn’t using facts though
Actually some feminists admit this.