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@Men Are Human it might make a good article for the site, have some juicy official documents
ill have it posted by 11 pm EST
@Tomas I watched the Lorerunner on that episode, apparently it was supposed to be more directly about sexual abuse in earlier versions
@blueorange22 If you could make your work exclusive for the site and share the links as your own it would help the site grow a lot. Especially as I'd like to allow writing teams eventual access directly to the posting function.
You are on the list of possible trustees by the way
reddit /u/Chrisss2 posted a new link in /r/MensRights
Not sure if this has been x-posted here before, but according to r/Feminism we aren’t allowed to leave the house because if we walk around we can be seen as ‘predators’. Disgusting. - https://redd.it/a890mn
https://i.redd.it/n6pmoifdscr11.jpg
I have no idea if that's satire of the 'women need to dress conservativlly' argument or if they really are that unironic
looks like direct satire to me
It is. All of it is supposed to play on 'stop rape, don't tell women what to do', which really only exists in the form of 'be careful'
is basically all the "just don't get raped" points but in reverse
because everyone knows that rapists give a shit about what you are wearing, too conservative dress? yeah, that'll stop 'em xD
Really though those arguments are silly. They are said very infrequently by stupid people. The majority of the time they conflate something like 'be careful and don't walk alone at night in a bad neighbourhood' which is really good advice for *anyone* and turn it into meaning 'women shouldn't do x or they deserve rape' which isn't what is meant, at all
I was sort-of making a jibe at how they are often unironic hypocrites and say this kind of thing without irony
there are some good points though, like being aware of drink spiking and making sure you are in a group that will watch out for you as you also watch out for your friends, that is a problem and men should be aware of it too
Yep they should. I've heard of guys being date raped - usually at gay bars
I feel like another point, especially to men is to notice when a violent situation is starting to take shape and how to avoid/deescalate it, hardly goes a day without some poor young boy out alone getting coward punched and killed because he couldn't read the situation properly.
we engrain this shit into girls and boys are kind of just left to figure it out on their own
Like most things, the truth is more or less in the middle
Sorry, that posted late
and juste yesterday i was debating whther viooence against men or women was more normalized, they really though it was violence against women that was seen as socially acceptable and normal...IMO it's the opposite, when we see men involved in violence its whats "normal"
Lol
I wonder if it's possible to work out the reporting rate
and i hate the stupidity of "dont teach women to avoid rape, teacfh men not to rape". you wouldnt see "teach terrorists not to be terrorists", you'd advise people not to travel to an area. if you go to a high crime area, it makes sense to take precautions. drinking at a club is no different
All you have to do to debate that is post one of the many videos of women and men being abused in public and the reactions of the public
Lol
i tried making that very point
Yep
@blueorange22 what did they say?
that i was an idiot
then left the discussion
Lol
So they know you are right
Typical
Had a debate on rape that got me banned from shit reddit says, of all places
I literally just told them the law when they were basically arguing to lock up men for every bad date as rapists
well if we have to teach men not to be rapists then we need to train women to not be false accusers as well
you cant really teach bad people and psychopaths not to be bad. the kind of person who would commit a violent assault lijely doesnt care about right and wrong. a class would be meaningless to them.
people just want to believe theres a "solution" to everything, but the unfortunately reality is that bad people exist and always will
There are solutions, but they are practical things that reduce overall numbers. One good thing to do would be to scrap Deluth-style policies.
which of course would be immediately attacked as "trying to remove protections for victims"