Message from @Men Are Human

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2018-12-20 14:29:05 UTC  

@Men Are Human it might make a good article for the site, have some juicy official documents

2018-12-20 15:33:01 UTC  

ill have it posted by 11 pm EST

2018-12-20 15:52:57 UTC  

@Tomas I watched the Lorerunner on that episode, apparently it was supposed to be more directly about sexual abuse in earlier versions

2018-12-21 11:50:40 UTC  

@blueorange22 If you could make your work exclusive for the site and share the links as your own it would help the site grow a lot. Especially as I'd like to allow writing teams eventual access directly to the posting function.

2018-12-21 11:50:57 UTC  

You are on the list of possible trustees by the way

2018-12-21 13:20:18 UTC  

reddit /u/Chrisss2 posted a new link in /r/MensRights
Not sure if this has been x-posted here before, but according to r/Feminism we aren’t allowed to leave the house because if we walk around we can be seen as ‘predators’. Disgusting. - https://redd.it/a890mn
https://i.redd.it/n6pmoifdscr11.jpg

2018-12-21 13:21:27 UTC  

I have no idea if that's satire of the 'women need to dress conservativlly' argument or if they really are that unironic

2018-12-21 13:25:15 UTC  

looks like direct satire to me

2018-12-21 13:26:14 UTC  

It is. All of it is supposed to play on 'stop rape, don't tell women what to do', which really only exists in the form of 'be careful'

2018-12-21 13:26:22 UTC  

is basically all the "just don't get raped" points but in reverse

2018-12-21 13:27:21 UTC  

because everyone knows that rapists give a shit about what you are wearing, too conservative dress? yeah, that'll stop 'em xD

2018-12-21 13:36:03 UTC  

Really though those arguments are silly. They are said very infrequently by stupid people. The majority of the time they conflate something like 'be careful and don't walk alone at night in a bad neighbourhood' which is really good advice for *anyone* and turn it into meaning 'women shouldn't do x or they deserve rape' which isn't what is meant, at all

2018-12-21 13:37:26 UTC  

I was sort-of making a jibe at how they are often unironic hypocrites and say this kind of thing without irony

2018-12-21 13:38:40 UTC  

there are some good points though, like being aware of drink spiking and making sure you are in a group that will watch out for you as you also watch out for your friends, that is a problem and men should be aware of it too

2018-12-21 13:39:33 UTC  

Yep they should. I've heard of guys being date raped - usually at gay bars

2018-12-21 13:41:42 UTC  

I feel like another point, especially to men is to notice when a violent situation is starting to take shape and how to avoid/deescalate it, hardly goes a day without some poor young boy out alone getting coward punched and killed because he couldn't read the situation properly.

2018-12-21 13:42:04 UTC  

we engrain this shit into girls and boys are kind of just left to figure it out on their own

2018-12-21 13:43:47 UTC  

Like most things, the truth is more or less in the middle

2018-12-21 13:44:12 UTC  

Sorry, that posted late

2018-12-21 13:44:26 UTC  

and juste yesterday i was debating whther viooence against men or women was more normalized, they really though it was violence against women that was seen as socially acceptable and normal...IMO it's the opposite, when we see men involved in violence its whats "normal"

2018-12-21 13:44:57 UTC  

Against women is far more reported

2018-12-21 13:45:01 UTC  

Lol

2018-12-21 13:45:34 UTC  

I wonder if it's possible to work out the reporting rate

2018-12-21 13:45:39 UTC  

and i hate the stupidity of "dont teach women to avoid rape, teacfh men not to rape". you wouldnt see "teach terrorists not to be terrorists", you'd advise people not to travel to an area. if you go to a high crime area, it makes sense to take precautions. drinking at a club is no different

2018-12-21 13:45:46 UTC  

All you have to do to debate that is post one of the many videos of women and men being abused in public and the reactions of the public

2018-12-21 13:45:57 UTC  

Lol

2018-12-21 13:45:57 UTC  

i tried making that very point

2018-12-21 13:46:02 UTC  

Yep

2018-12-21 13:46:30 UTC  

@blueorange22 what did they say?

2018-12-21 13:47:20 UTC  

that i was an idiot

2018-12-21 13:47:28 UTC  

then left the discussion

2018-12-21 13:55:18 UTC  

Lol

2018-12-21 13:55:27 UTC  

So they know you are right

2018-12-21 13:55:31 UTC  

Typical

2018-12-21 13:57:05 UTC  

Had a debate on rape that got me banned from shit reddit says, of all places

2018-12-21 13:57:41 UTC  

I literally just told them the law when they were basically arguing to lock up men for every bad date as rapists

2018-12-21 13:58:32 UTC  

well if we have to teach men not to be rapists then we need to train women to not be false accusers as well

2018-12-21 14:07:36 UTC  

you cant really teach bad people and psychopaths not to be bad. the kind of person who would commit a violent assault lijely doesnt care about right and wrong. a class would be meaningless to them.

2018-12-21 14:09:17 UTC  

people just want to believe theres a "solution" to everything, but the unfortunately reality is that bad people exist and always will

2018-12-21 14:28:20 UTC  

There are solutions, but they are practical things that reduce overall numbers. One good thing to do would be to scrap Deluth-style policies.

2018-12-21 14:30:29 UTC  

which of course would be immediately attacked as "trying to remove protections for victims"