Hey 😃 I'm Tomas- 35, UK (but virtually nocturnal hence being up at 3am).. I'm new- looking to chat to others about mens rights and learn more as most of my friends and people I'm around are really extreme feminists / 'sjw' people and things seem increasingly wrong.

@James Yes sorry, was asleep as you guessed.. Anything in particular that brings me here? Coming across the reddit and finally building up courage to put it simply.. more complex answer would mean telling my life story and family history probably would take forever

A couple of personal experiences is- growing up not knowing my brother as my father had no rights- i saw what that did to him..also being a trans guy ive experienced what its like to be seen as female and male at different times- in many ways its easier to be female in terms of rights and attitudes (which was not a surprise to me- i knew it before transition really)

I grew up with my dad- my brother lost contact with him at age 11 or so before i was born, he was my dads stepson but from birth (didnt matter to family courts of course).. he always saw him as his son which he was just not biologically

As an adult he contacted us- he ended up living with us for a while :)

Yes it was difficult for him- he fought for a long time in the courts too

Yes england

1980s

Gagging orders introduced?

(parents involved in family courts now are often forbidden from speaking out in my understanding)

Public

So any miscarriages of justice (which there are many) can be hidden

Exactly.. its used in a big way against autistic parents (autistic rights is something i keep up with) .. parents are tricked and lied to- trust social workers in the beginning, babies get taken in view for forced adoption because they are in high demand.. once the parents finally get help and organised and realise whats happened (eg unprofessional social workers, people lying, solicitors making deals with the local authorities) then they cant speak out due to the law and when they do its passed off a symptom of mental illness because they are lone voices

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Hi @Fred-104

How about #the-room-for-an-argument ? ;)

Im not supposed to be about- need to sleep but keep getting distracted.. im new, i think

@Men Are Human turning off discord might help your right- but i like the challenge

If kids are seeing adults having fun dressing up and dancing on tv on things like drag race then some are bound to want to copy- i have no issue with kids wearing clothes of another gender, having fun but when its pushed, made into something else that a kid later will find hard to back out of and / or sexualised.. same with pagents for girls many are too sexualised for kids

Whether or not they are allowed to wear the clothes is unlikely to change whether they come out as gay / trans / straight / whatever in the future- kids dress up, boys should be able to if they want to without it being seen as something more instantly and definately not sexualised at age 10

@Men Are Human you got it :)

I volunteered in a high school about 10 years ago mostly working with one lad in year 7- he could barely read or write at age 12.. we'd look round the school library for something he was interested in reading but it was almost all fiction aimed at typical girls interests which was a big problem when trying to get the kid interested

(uk highschool).. people know the gaps between girls and boys exsist but seem to blame boys themselves for the issues (its because boys think its not cool to learn etc) rather than the way kids are being taught now is not suitable for most boys (because if they started admitting that it would mean admitting gender differences - but genders a social construct)..

@Men Are Human Ill give it a go if I manage to finish it Ill let you know

Or the insistance that boys and girls are exactly the same - so boys need the same things girls find helpful.. as almost all teachers up till kids are 11 are female then its hard for them to appreciate its different

Kids do multiple exams- sats are mostly meaningless but change expectations of those around the kids (age 7, 10, age 13 approx).. then gcses at age 16.. they allow you to go to 'college' to do A levels till age 18/19 then uni for 3 years if wished etc

Education is compulsary in some form till 18 now i was led to believe- hence why young people are doing more apprenicships

Some kids arent able to take gcses because it would bring the schools score down so they are put in for other stuff but most are expected to (bet the rate of males v females being expelled from academies is 'interesting' too)

Sixth form / college is optional, high school is not (very simply put)

Many dont have good reason though- parents in my area are struggling with academies illegally excluding autistic kids, across country is an issue- autistic boys and adhd boys tend to need to move more and not be quiet like girls with similar diagnosis in general

Alternative schools eg forest schools or summerhill in the uk manage to bridge the gap?

@billy-goats-gruff? ;)

@Men Are Human we have that in common - I was stuck in a closet to study too because of bullying, altho i was lucky it was where one of the teachers kept her computer that was always logged into the teachers network (late 90s) and i spent that year reading about the other kids and teachers issues (i was a nosey kid) and changing autocorrect so normal words like 'exam' would correct to silly or rude ones

@InsaneCaterpilla thats a weird coincedence- i watched that one again a few days ago

Really obvious they are making parallels with sexual abuse in the show

Hi, been awhile- looks like lots has changed

either that or I've broken a rule I don't kno0w about

@Maxthx thanks for the approval

no worries- its good to be cautious

Hey @Men Are Human 😃 Doing well thanks- yourself?