Message from @Orwell
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I'm curious is there anyone else here that's a deist
not me
@abturk125 i get confused when people say "deist" i have heard multiple definitions
Deist is typically used to describe belief in a god who doesn’t interact with the universe after its creation. Theism would be the normal description of belief in a more active god
ya see, to me, thats a very limited view of God
it seems to have this subconscious assumption that time applies to God, it doesn't
but ill stop, religions is a mindf*ck, politics is much simpler
@Scipio Americanus Crono defined it pretty well
@Scipio Americanus there are deists who would assert that the universe is totally under that gods control despite being deists in a manner similar to the one you seem to be inferring through applying some means of determinism but this would be a progression of the universe by natural law to fulfil that will rather than the more direct interference such as miracles that many theists would understand as being an extension of their gods will. Determinism is a pretty hefty issue theologically though and would require some critical analysis that this forum would seem to preclude.
>emphasazing masculine traits
its very insecure thing to do
@CronoSaturn i tend to find that when you zoom out to the point of looking at determinism, shit becomes a a clusterf*ck really quick. When in reference to God, or really anything that would be bigger or beyond our universe, science no longer applies. Therefore, literally only God knows
hence why theism turns to mysticism. what annoys me is when they try to contradict science with mysticism, drives me fucking crazy. "God did it" me "FUCKING HOW?" HE LIKES PATTERNS AND EXPLANATIONS ENOUGH FOR SCIENCE TO EXIST SO HOW?"
*clears throat* excuse me, this just really irritates me
Are you aware that there are ways of knowing things beyond empirical science?
@FreshWholeMilk are you aware i mentioned exactly that?
thats literally a huge part of my point, it just when science is involved and i ask a scientific question, im not looking for a "who" but a "how". its like asking how a car is built and you tell me factory workers.
People who dismiss science and replace it with science are fools
You can have both you mongoloids
so we can have 2 science ???
@Holly Jolly Willow i think you mean replace god with science but this seems to be the line scipio is taking
When society reaches the inevitable arrival of transhumanism there will come a time of nihilism in the sense that the values provided by God will no longer be enough to accomodate for post-human human existence
Nietzche delved into this topic extensively and its worth it to have a look at his concepts of "God is dead" and the "ubermensch"
human beings that eventually reach lifespans of 500+ years will eventually have to start looking towards themselves to create their own values where God fails to provide, as the lack of "death" will eventually make it easier for humans to fall into degeneracy
No I mean replace science with holy unknowns for no reason
Why not just admit that science is real and just say "oh yeah my God is cool because they made all this intricate math and science."
This looks like a strawman made out of misunderstandings or experiences with low iq people. Anyway, you shouldn't argue here. You can move this to <#507035890640486411> or <#508381442942959616>
This is a religious chat we're on topic
B I T c h
its proper co-existence of society itself
@Holly Jolly Willow Keep insulting the admin
@Bearer Of The Curse bb ii TT cc hh
It's a meme obviously, don't take everything to heart
I like double letters. I won't punish you, you just should be aware and not act aggressively
this redpilled me
"fun" was just recently invented, 19th century russian wouldnt understand the world
fun is empty brain game