Sentaria
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The difference between a legal refuge and illegal is the crimes they commit
how about the increase of sexual assault crimes in Western Europe?
or maybe the fact that simply stabbing someone is also oh... a crime
legal migrants come to country's and wait in line for entry and citizenship meanwhile illegals cross borders and commit crimes on large scales
the immigration is the issue immigration is a serious issue
moving from one location to another and trying to settle there is migration
Hungry has been one of the strongest nations in europe advocating for border security and national sovereignty
the only issues they have been facing is from the dictatorial EU
It doesnt need to stand alone as a power if it can be apart of a growing coalition of countries which is the case
the EU has done nothing but erase national borders and place the fate of nations in the hands of elites in Brussels who have their own interests in mind not people in countries across the block
these nations actually are very rich Polands economy has been rising over the past years and Italys economy is the fourth largest in the block
the only issues these nations have faced are from Brussles and the EU itself
I never stated it was in a great position
your assuming my points now
I never stated any one country is the focus of the EU either
all i stated was there is a growing coalition of nations in the EU opposing open border polices and advocating for national sovereignty over following orders from a set of unelected elites in Brussels
i believe Hungry and all these other nations once had no hope of saving themselves from the flow of migration
now they have the opportunity to change that entirely
well this parliament election is going to be focused on very heavily
this election decides the fate of the entire EU
its no bias its simply stating the facts
the leaders across europe have been taken down one by one and nations are moving to the right its just obvious
no bias just fact
these countries have the chance to write their own fate in the elections in May if they win Europe is going to change drastically
Germany and France have been the spear heads of globalism in the EU and across Europe that is no longer the case because globalism is dying out
The power is shifting from France and Germany to now represent all nations in the block
the battle is natonlsits vs globalists and the eu elections will be the cross rode battle which decides who gets to shape the lives of the block
gloablism is whats destroyed France and Germany thats what it is
'They are big in economy and miltary but poltically they are unstable
central government authority being so easily toppled is whats shaking the balance of power in europe away from Brussles
you also just backed up my point
by topple i mean the wave of nationalism sweeping the EU and Europe as a hole there is no denying it that globalists left wing parties and centrists parties are declining
although if things in france dont settle down topple by election may turn into topple by revoultion
but i highly doubt it
look up elections across europe as a whole in 2017
over 900 districts held elections and left wing parties lost over 90% of them
if you want more recent examples Spain is the best one
right wing nationalism and right wing parties across Europe are rising in popularity there is no debate about it
13% in EU elections is nothing. In recent years aka since 2016 far left parties have fallen in polls and local state elections
not for much longer
a coalition is highly likely between The New Democracy Party and Golden Dawn
Syriza is also becoming hated throughout the country
Anderlusia saw vox storm into parliament with over 11% of the vote and this was their first election
my entire point is right wing partries are rising all over europe
who cares about polling๐
lmfao
the media polled clitnon at over 70% to win over trump and she lost
polls dont mean anything
also polling is very biased as it askes one group of voters to give their opinion and not others
they where already saying she would win and started calling her madam president before the election even happened
the media was all sure she would win and she lost
polling numbers dont mean jack shit until the election actually happens simply basing your support or opinions of polls is ridiculous
polling is not accurate and hardly ever mimics what actually happens in the elections where ever they may be
people are already saying trump will lose because polls predict it
this idea polling is fact is easily disproved and basing your opinions on the polls is childish. Not saying you specifically but no one should base anything off on polling data that most likely has a bias
i have given you multiple examples of evidence you refuse to except them
i have discussed multiple events you know what i said dont act like you missed it
election results do back me and they are not claims its simply stating the fact
right wing parties are rising across europe your argument against it was two countries that have left wing governments. You had no counter argument for any other nation that i mentioned prior to that
again your using one countrys government as your defense
i never said they where holding all countries so your using two nations as what?there is no point to use them since it doesnt make a counter to anything i said
far left parties have been declining and centrists parties are also taking the hit as well
Italy is a prime example of the nationalist sweep across Europe and the EU as a whole
i have given him multiple events in which right wing parties have burs-ted on to the political map
No what you did was use Greece and Spain as examples of two nations with left wing governments which does nothing to refute my argument of right wing parties sweeping europe
its not a small shift in one nation or region this is a mass realignment of political believes and a reclaim of national sovereignty and tradition
again your basing your entire argument off of polling in two countries where the media is against right wing movements all together
how is that reliable information>
and this proves my point again. You talked about economies well Italy has the fourth largest in the EU and is seeing a massive rise in nationalist/anti establishment parties
five star and the league are just two examples of this
also The League has over 60% approval dont believe me?its all there in the national and local elections of the past decade
again your using one nations government as an attempt to deflect my argument when all it does is strength it
by showing only governments which large opposition or left wing governments you are showing a clear bias to which side your preferring over the other
you have done nothing but reinforce my points this entire time
right wing parties specially nationalists are rising across Europe i never stated that they where holding all seats and government in these countries but the argument your trying to make is one that would be to dispute that claim and since i never made that claim your argument holds not weight
i have also provided you with information of right wing parties rising in popularity
you still have not debunked my argument you have only made it stronger
Fun fact liberalism and left wing parties are in the decline in Germany and Macron in my opinion will not preform well in the EU elections in may Le Pen will out shine him
France may have elections sooner then 2022 and Germany may have new elections soon as well we will just have to see
i never stated the left was in absolute decline and had no strong position your own posts say as much
i stated left and center parties are in the decline as a generalization across the block not in every single country. This argument stems from the increase in right wing party support and over preforming in elections
i have multiple times stated numbers and made solid arguments backed up with evidence
five star you mean?
i am simply discussing a serious topic and your resulting to childish attacks
i have no issue with debating you but cutting the sarcasm and attacks would help greatly
five star is anti establishment which is why they resonated so well with the people because the people in Italy are sick of the established elites in Brussels
i will state as many times as i need to do so. My original argument was right wing parties are on the rise across the EU i never did say however they where dominating everywhere and had an absolute grip on power you assumed that was my argument and still are doing so now.
I also stated centrist parties across the EU where in decline but never did i say or claim they had no holdings or support you also made the assumption that was my argument
Defending ones traditions,customs and borders is a normal human reaction. Patriosts who love their country will stand up when they face a crisis interna or external and we are seeing this wave of natonlism backlash against the EU because these people and their leaders understand the importance of defending ones nation
i have stated multiple events and party's and have done so civilly and respectfully i have not resulted to insults or petty attacks and have remained focused on the topic we where discussing
what you have shown me is you cant debate civilly
you even stated yourself "i know that which is why im telling you"
i have given numbers which you even said you knew and had seen them yourself
i have stated elections that have happened in recent years and sighted parties that are on the rise and at every turn you have assumed my position and points and also backed up my statements but when called out reverted back to petty attacks and insults
you originally started arguing with me because i mentioned stats and rising popularity from the result of elections
and all the data did was back me up
^^^
agreed
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