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2018-12-13 16:10:59 UTC  

Telling you what you want to hear

2018-12-13 16:11:07 UTC  

Because they want it to stop

2018-12-13 16:11:18 UTC  

Regardless of whether it's true

2018-12-13 16:11:34 UTC  

Sure. I haven't done enough research, I mean there are expert interrogation people out there who know the ropes

2018-12-13 16:11:55 UTC  

They'd know how often they get confessions and how often they're true

2018-12-13 16:12:12 UTC  

I think it probably depends on the method

2018-12-13 16:12:40 UTC  

"You tell us or we'll make you watch the Death Note Live Action movie"

2018-12-13 16:12:41 UTC  

Physical torture I don't think is very effective from what I remember reading

2018-12-13 16:13:10 UTC  

But I haven't done extensive research on it

2018-12-13 16:13:22 UTC  

"After that, it's a marathon of Steven Universe"

2018-12-13 16:14:24 UTC  

There was a case of a terrorist making up a story about an entire compund where they were training recruits to get the interrogators to stop the torture

2018-12-13 16:14:59 UTC  

Another tricky part is that logically if I was being tortured, I would think that as soon as they verify that I told then the truth, they'd have no need for me anymore and would kill me

2018-12-13 16:15:59 UTC  

Basically what happens is you get so exhausted you'll say anything to get out

2018-12-13 16:16:05 UTC  

You can't think straight

2018-12-13 16:17:14 UTC  

There are techniques to interrogstion that have been shown to be effective

2018-12-13 16:17:33 UTC  

But straight torture isn't one

2018-12-13 16:17:34 UTC  

I suppose if you lie, they would have to investigate to find out whether you lied or not, so inevitably they'd take a break

2018-12-13 16:17:56 UTC  

Which reinforces that lying works

2018-12-13 16:18:03 UTC  

A common one if you arrest two is to lie and say the other one squealed

2018-12-13 16:18:41 UTC  

Making sure they don't actually have any communication in the meantime of course

2018-12-13 16:18:44 UTC  

If you have 2+ people you can always say whoever talks will be spared

2018-12-13 16:18:55 UTC  

And they'll worry that the others talked

2018-12-13 16:19:13 UTC  

If they think the other talked

2018-12-13 16:19:23 UTC  

They'll think they've nothing to lose

2018-12-13 16:19:37 UTC  

They want to be spared though

2018-12-13 16:20:10 UTC  

If they refuse to talk and their buddy does, their buddy is spared while they get shafted

2018-12-13 16:20:37 UTC  

This depends on circumstance, if they think talking might get them killed fir example

2018-12-13 16:20:52 UTC  

Yeah there's a lot of factors

2018-12-13 16:20:54 UTC  

They might still refuse to talk

2018-12-13 16:21:11 UTC  

Mind reading would make this easier

2018-12-13 16:22:05 UTC  

This Notso guy has a strange morality, I'd like to know where it comes from, what's the justificative for it.

2018-12-13 16:23:52 UTC  

I've heard of polygraphs being used not because they work but because the prisoner might think they do

2018-12-13 16:24:31 UTC  

I agree with most of his ideas. There should be right to a trial if you're actually of a crime, presumption of innocence, it would be very difficult to ban a religion even in private so that's probably foolish, a warrant should be obtained in order to search private property, etc.

2018-12-13 16:24:32 UTC  

Does it not work to a certain extent?

2018-12-13 16:25:03 UTC  

Not if you know how to beat them

2018-12-13 16:25:07 UTC  

Same with drugs, Snake.

2018-12-13 16:25:27 UTC  

Drugs?

2018-12-13 16:25:35 UTC  

"it would be very difficult to ban a religion even in private so that's probably foolish"

2018-12-13 16:26:04 UTC  

Drugs are physical objects. You can make it illegal to produce, sell, or use the objects

2018-12-13 16:26:06 UTC  

What matters is taking it away from the culture and normal sphere

2018-12-13 16:26:19 UTC  

It's hard to ban praying to X diety