And no

I believe in inalienable rights of the people

So constitutional monarchist? What are those rights? @Notso

Fair trial by jury, no unwarranted search, freedom of movement, no torture, free exercise of religion in the home (though not necessarily in public)

Freedom of movement? 🤔

Is this a no borders thing

No

It'd be hard to ban a religion so sure that's reasonable

The government cannot without due process keep you to a portion of its country

No unwarranted house arrest or imprisonment

No torture is a tricky one. What if the person is guilty of a crime, like an act of terrorism, he's tried and found guilty, etc.

Firing squad or inert gas chamber works to get rid of him

Id also argue life imprisonment is illegal as torture, execution would be ordered in that case

As well as solitary confinement beyond immediate guarantee of safety to others

I'm not sure how effective torture is at actually getting people to reveal information, but let's assume it is effective. Our terrorist here most likely had some friends who supplied him with his guns/bombs and were working together. We only caught him. We want names.

If he is given a trial in accordance with the law and found guilty of bombing a shopping center, killing 20 people, and we want the names of his accomplices, I think torture should be considered

Torture hasn't been shown to be very effective from my understanding

They'll often end up with false confessions

Right, that's what I was wondering

From exhaustion

Telling you what you want to hear

Because they want it to stop

Regardless of whether it's true

Sure. I haven't done enough research, I mean there are expert interrogation people out there who know the ropes

They'd know how often they get confessions and how often they're true

I think it probably depends on the method

"You tell us or we'll make you watch the Death Note Live Action movie"

Physical torture I don't think is very effective from what I remember reading

But I haven't done extensive research on it

"After that, it's a marathon of Steven Universe"

There was a case of a terrorist making up a story about an entire compund where they were training recruits to get the interrogators to stop the torture

Another tricky part is that logically if I was being tortured, I would think that as soon as they verify that I told then the truth, they'd have no need for me anymore and would kill me

Basically what happens is you get so exhausted you'll say anything to get out

You can't think straight

There are techniques to interrogstion that have been shown to be effective

But straight torture isn't one

I suppose if you lie, they would have to investigate to find out whether you lied or not, so inevitably they'd take a break

Which reinforces that lying works

A common one if you arrest two is to lie and say the other one squealed

Making sure they don't actually have any communication in the meantime of course

If you have 2+ people you can always say whoever talks will be spared