Message from @Rex Carthaginis
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No torture is a tricky one. What if the person is guilty of a crime, like an act of terrorism, he's tried and found guilty, etc.
Firing squad or inert gas chamber works to get rid of him
Id also argue life imprisonment is illegal as torture, execution would be ordered in that case
As well as solitary confinement beyond immediate guarantee of safety to others
I'm not sure how effective torture is at actually getting people to reveal information, but let's assume it is effective. Our terrorist here most likely had some friends who supplied him with his guns/bombs and were working together. We only caught him. We want names.
If he is given a trial in accordance with the law and found guilty of bombing a shopping center, killing 20 people, and we want the names of his accomplices, I think torture should be considered
Torture hasn't been shown to be very effective from my understanding
They'll often end up with false confessions
Right, that's what I was wondering
From exhaustion
Telling you what you want to hear
Because they want it to stop
Regardless of whether it's true
Sure. I haven't done enough research, I mean there are expert interrogation people out there who know the ropes
They'd know how often they get confessions and how often they're true
I think it probably depends on the method
"You tell us or we'll make you watch the Death Note Live Action movie"
Physical torture I don't think is very effective from what I remember reading
But I haven't done extensive research on it
"After that, it's a marathon of Steven Universe"
There was a case of a terrorist making up a story about an entire compund where they were training recruits to get the interrogators to stop the torture
Another tricky part is that logically if I was being tortured, I would think that as soon as they verify that I told then the truth, they'd have no need for me anymore and would kill me
Basically what happens is you get so exhausted you'll say anything to get out
You can't think straight
There are techniques to interrogstion that have been shown to be effective
But straight torture isn't one
I suppose if you lie, they would have to investigate to find out whether you lied or not, so inevitably they'd take a break
Which reinforces that lying works
A common one if you arrest two is to lie and say the other one squealed
Making sure they don't actually have any communication in the meantime of course
If you have 2+ people you can always say whoever talks will be spared
And they'll worry that the others talked
If they think the other talked
They'll think they've nothing to lose
They want to be spared though
If they refuse to talk and their buddy does, their buddy is spared while they get shafted
This depends on circumstance, if they think talking might get them killed fir example
Yeah there's a lot of factors
They might still refuse to talk
Mind reading would make this easier
This Notso guy has a strange morality, I'd like to know where it comes from, what's the justificative for it.