But yeah, I get you. Half of my family has one opinion on the Ukraine war, and another one - a different one.

Progressive Liberal vs. Progressive Liberal LITE

ok this is epic

Is that the guy who was assassinated with a Katana?

This guy gave us anime

Cant decide if thats good or bad

@Aki Trinidad and Tobago

cultural nationalism would be better for multinat countries

Civic Nationalism is the best

hmmm... ok

Cultural nationalism is the best for countries with a culture. Certainly such an ideology would be ill-fitting for consumerist modern societies like America.

Cultural Nationalism would be ideal for America

if we can find a way to kill consumerism

Globalism is the Ideal for America, Open borders everyone

I disagree because here people still have their own separate cultural identifies; I think that a set of values like environmentalism, tolerance for other cultures to an extent, a thorough understanding of the political system, a deep knowledge and appreciation of the history of the country, as well as a sort of 'collectivism through individualism' where unity is brought about through the celebration of individual rights @Bearer Of The Curse

America has its values written, it can become cultnat

That would be ideal, but America is too far-gone in this regard @PunishedMuskovy

I don't think you need to enforce 'one culture' in multinational countries like mine, but certain aspects of the cultures need to be erased permanently

There are many different cultures within America

There can't be an American Nationalism of any sort

yea America is fucked

Some may disagree here, but the idea of the American Dream is far too easy to turn into something consumerist.

It was all ok until you said individual rights

Imperialism is American culture

What's wrong with individual rights?

Obesity is American culture.

@Bird Wizard jewish culture wearing an American mask

The only good rights is where the people bow down to the State

oh yeah, the Jewish Empires that have spanned multiple continents in the past

we've all seen that right

I think you can have a strong state that still respects individual rights

We need to incorporate Prayers to Israel in American schools.

All other ideas of yours can be fit into cultural nationalism, but individual rights are a spook

keep the constitution for America

except kill freedom of expression

cultural nationalism is gay and weak

I like seeing the order and unity of many strong authoritarian states, however it's all well and good until your revolution 'for the state' winds up leaving you in an oppressive state that was nothing like you had in mind

because i want porn outlawed dammit