Message from @Dylan

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2018-12-25 16:13:42 UTC  

Cultural nationalism is the best for countries with a culture. Certainly such an ideology would be ill-fitting for consumerist modern societies like America.

2018-12-25 16:14:04 UTC  

Cultural Nationalism would be ideal for America

2018-12-25 16:14:12 UTC  

if we can find a way to kill consumerism

2018-12-25 16:14:36 UTC  

I disagree because here people still have their own separate cultural identifies; I think that a set of values like environmentalism, tolerance for other cultures to an extent, a thorough understanding of the political system, a deep knowledge and appreciation of the history of the country, as well as a sort of 'collectivism through individualism' where unity is brought about through the celebration of individual rights @Bearer Of The Curse

2018-12-25 16:14:40 UTC  

America has its values written, it can become cultnat

2018-12-25 16:14:45 UTC  

That would be ideal, but America is too far-gone in this regard @PunishedMuskovy

2018-12-25 16:15:10 UTC  

I don't think you need to enforce 'one culture' in multinational countries like mine, but certain aspects of the cultures need to be erased permanently

2018-12-25 16:15:17 UTC  

There are many different cultures within America

2018-12-25 16:15:29 UTC  

There can't be an American Nationalism of any sort

2018-12-25 16:15:32 UTC  

yea America is fucked

2018-12-25 16:15:38 UTC  

Some may disagree here, but the idea of the American Dream is far too easy to turn into something consumerist.

2018-12-25 16:15:41 UTC  

It was all ok until you said individual rights

2018-12-25 16:15:46 UTC  

Imperialism is American culture

2018-12-25 16:15:57 UTC  

What's wrong with individual rights?

2018-12-25 16:16:01 UTC  

Obesity is American culture.

2018-12-25 16:16:08 UTC  

@Bird Wizard jewish culture wearing an American mask

2018-12-25 16:16:53 UTC  

oh yeah, the Jewish Empires that have spanned multiple continents in the past

2018-12-25 16:16:59 UTC  

we've all seen that right

2018-12-25 16:17:16 UTC  

I think you can have a strong state that still respects individual rights

2018-12-25 16:17:22 UTC  

We need to incorporate Prayers to Israel in American schools.

2018-12-25 16:17:35 UTC  

All other ideas of yours can be fit into cultural nationalism, but individual rights are a spook

2018-12-25 16:17:35 UTC  

keep the constitution for America

2018-12-25 16:17:41 UTC  

except kill freedom of expression

2018-12-25 16:17:51 UTC  

cultural nationalism is gay and weak

2018-12-25 16:18:10 UTC  

I like seeing the order and unity of many strong authoritarian states, however it's all well and good until your revolution 'for the state' winds up leaving you in an oppressive state that was nothing like you had in mind

2018-12-25 16:18:12 UTC  

because i want porn outlawed dammit

2018-12-25 16:18:14 UTC  

Keep the Constitution, kill the part that's necessary for it's Defence

2018-12-25 16:18:33 UTC  

@Gerçek OUTLAW PORN

2018-12-25 16:18:34 UTC  

AAAAA

2018-12-25 16:18:38 UTC  

just use parental blockers, not that hard

2018-12-25 16:18:43 UTC  

Bring about unity through the promulgation of certain values and make these values perpetuated through the education system

2018-12-25 16:18:59 UTC  

implying the problem with pornography is just kids getting a hold of it

2018-12-25 16:19:12 UTC  

The school is never as influential as your own community

2018-12-25 16:19:22 UTC  

Completely disagree

2018-12-25 16:19:27 UTC  

you can block it for yourself with parental blockers

2018-12-25 16:19:30 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/507035890640486411/527158455807508480/fighter-facts-infographic_orig.png

2018-12-25 16:19:30 UTC  

I trust Saint Stolypin on the Individualism question.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/507035890640486411/527158457057411072/17df975e80f6c8257fc6e303f7008fec.png

2018-12-25 16:19:59 UTC  

Alright, maybe someone that likes cultnat more can try and change your mind