Maybe if you asked what the most widely used logo is you'd get an answer you like better.

@Happy Humble Hermit If you worked a job that was $65-$70k, saved at least 55% of your income every year to invest it, you had no debt, owned your car, and lived 3 mins from work - would you spend $1,250/mo on a luxury apartment (the average rent in this area is $800-900/mo) or a nice car?

The past few years I've saved a lot of income (I aim for 60-75% of my income) and invested it. Thing is, I've always lived with other people (including female roommates) and ever since discovering the red pill and mgtow I want to just live alone. I wanted to pay a little extra for 1 year just to see how it would feel to splurge a little on myself. I know this absolutely a luxury and a pretty dumb one at that (100% depreciation from renting, especially a luxury apartment) but I still *want* it, at least for a year. I currently rent a $400/mo bedroom in a shared house with a few other young professionals and try to follow Musashi's "Be indifferent to where you live" rule but the idea of living high on the hog and ALONE seems so nice right now. What's your take?

@machtyn im not hhh but i would get the apartment for sure. thats where your living and spending your time. a vehicle is always just a utility. and getting a reliable car is going to serve you much better than a luxury car. because you gotta consider gas costs, repair costs, etc. the hidden costs of a car can be much more than you bargin for. but for a nice place to live that provides you peace of mind and a space to decompress after a long day at work? i would say thats much more worth it than a nice car.

@shadowlessnexus I agree on the car. I bought a 5 year old car with 30k miles and it will last me until 2030 or longer with the way I drive it. I appreciate your perspective on housing. I do spend 40-50 hours in my current living situation but 10 of that is eaten up by female roommates wanting to gossip, help them or other nonsense. The luxury (1300/mo) apartment may not be what I go with but I will definitely move out and pay more than $400/mo for peace and quiet! I don't know why I want a NICE PLACE compared to just a place. I did work hard to get where I am now. Thanks!

anytime fam

Hi guys I am new to the group .Is there an option for voice call as mgtow men we should communicate directly

There is a voice chat here buts it's not very active. If you want to talk to other mgtow men I'd recommend trying tfms server. His voice chat is very active. There is often a group there.

Do any of you guys think that the collapse will involve a great war and the bloodshed of many men?

That's my fear

Depends, You have to look at genetics and if the environment where you live will be violent or not.

When does HHH and TFM hold their streams

be ready for war but hope for peace

@DreadPirateCro I'll be on the tfm show on saturday and I don't schedule my streams I just do them when I have some free time but I'm working on reshaping my schedule to create a schedule for streams

Do you guys think that if Mgtow ideology were gain more power we can be able to take over some colleges?

@blackknight14 I doubt it, mgtow men (at least in my case) would rather go to a trade school

Looking at the possibilties that can happen, you have a point.

Question..

@Little_Bob_69 War is needed to keep the population in check and it's profitable.

Does the Doll House Sell Used Dolls or Refurbished Dolls? ( Lmao)

@ZODD they actually might... why anyone would buy that is beyond me.

if they couldn't afford the good Stuff i guess. HAHAHAHA

If youre familiar with findom... There might even be a market for only used dolls... I dont understand people

@Happy Humble Hermit if you think about it it is like marrying a college graduated frat girl

Except it's a sex bot

@Happy Humble Hermit What would you recommend, pursuing tech or a trade?

Trade. LOL!

@Oniichan Of The West depends on which country you live. Check the demand. Here it's definitely tech. If you live in a small economy where prices are lower than your surrounding countries, I would definitely advise programming, so you can freelance through upwork and get an American or Brittish salary, so you'll be living above most people

Hi everyone. I'm new to mgtow,well I learned about it 3 months ago and now I just feel like I'm losing my mind. It feels like every choice I've made now is a mistake. Like going to college. Is it normal the have these feelings or is this all just me?

red pill rage / Mgtow Rage is Normal. Just keep learning , and improve ur state of mind

Hey H³ and community. My question is how to stop grieving for revenge after your bluepill-stage. I realize that i've been used in the second half of my almost two year relationship. Beginning in November, she will study with me again in an integrated degree program. Obviously i will not give her advantage throughout this anymore, before i did way too much for her.

Despite that i still feel the need of revenge. Not in the physical way but to prove her wrong about her respectless manipulative behavior towards me. I am in the stage where loneliness tranfers to soltitude and i volountarily went monk mode after the breakup. To forget what she has done to me, should i fuck some other females with low maintenance to just forget anything emotional attached to her in my brain or keep to the my morals of not giving in to any women anymore. I turned down sexual advances on one girl since my breakup that is over 4 months in the past.

And to advance this question, how do i treat her, when i have to work with her

Mysteriedingens - There is one more brutal "pill" to consume that will abate your desire for revenge, though it may beset you further. "Not in the physical way but to prove her wrong about her respectless manipulative behavior towards me." Unfortunately, anytime you encounter a lack of respect and manipulation, you are almost assuredly confronting sociopathy. She may feel not be Ted Bundy in the full capacity, perhaps capable of feeling something for a kid, her family, a pet (doubtful), but you were clearly nothing but a slavebody to her. Dreaming for revenge in the form of her realizing her wrongdoing is absolutely impossible. There simply is no conscience to speak of, and if that makes a human then realizing that will help you ignore her for the philosophical zombie she is. If you can easily fuck another female, yes it is recommended because it will depedestalize the previous pussy, though take great care not to glorify the next other than a nut. The hardest part of your ordeal is the fact that you will need to continue study near her. Letting go of your need for justice is a good way through it. Once you realize she is no more worthy or considerate than your average junky on the street, and that her value you to was only ever really culminated in the nut and her other "contributions" merely burdens -- yes even the tender moments -- you will be free.

How much longer do you thiink this curent world continue to live on life support given the current climate?

The best revenge is becoming successful

Either you create or you contract. Best to create and not waste time contracting within yourself.

thank your for your contributions. my own answer to myself at the moment, going my own way but i still have strong sexual urges as a young man and it is hard to go celibate. I am not watching porn for various reasons and i am not into one night stands if the girl can contact me after that. I liked the principle H³ told once. Three stages. One of monk mode, one of spinning plates, and one of short term relationships in the honeymoon-phase. I consider going that way too but worry if i set myself up for more problems connected with the grieve i still feel for my last girlfriend.

the spining plates seems like the most viable solution for someone like you

@everyone Independently from thottery, how many partners do you consider okay for a girl for you if you decide to enter a (short/long) relationship with them. Does it matter to you, do you have an principles? Im interested!

I would say less than 5. Depended on if she slept with them and for how long as well. If she is just giving it out left and right then no. But if it something like I dated for a while before engaging in sex than that is acceptable.

< 5 is virtually impossible to find in an adult female these days

Truth