Message from @Mysteriedingens
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I agree that monogamy coupled with irrational expectations is doomed from the start though that doesn't mean that it cannot work with certain twists here and there
Monogamy doesnt work without the fear of punishment. I advice you to try it, after that come back and approve all points mentioned.
a relationship cant be balanced, one is in the dominant position. And if you feel like you are equal, then she is in power.
@Kazemaru not sure yet if I will spend that much time on this topic. I was just curious since I agreed with a few points and wanted to hear what it's all about
@Flushtater yea it's obvious that security is an illusion. So are most of the concepts and perceived "realities", especially in the West. But that is not just something women fall for
@Artemis Women are a victim of this system aswell because of the artificial independency. I mean they are more unhappy than ever. They hate working, they hate pressure. Yet they are also indoctrinated by it. MGTOW is not defeaterism but getting the most out your time and resources. And you may yet didnt find a woman who got to be your cryptonite and if you are lucky you never will. But if you will, that bitch is gonna try to cut your balls off
Who says a relationship has to be equal anyway? What's wrong with one being more dominant? @Mysteriedingens
Nothing
But it is draining energy if it doesn come natural to the relationship dynamics (that change any time if another male appears in her life)
and if you are the passive part, you will get very hurt when she finds a better option, which they all wanna do
Women dont want to be submissive in a relationship dynamics, they dont cook anymore, they dont clean anymore, they want to decide things, they want entertainment, they want attention... It is either really taxing to be dominant or you are too passive
@Flushtater but what are women supposed to do about the biological need for protection? Yea, they have it. Doesn't mean she is automatically incapable of loving you and dedicating herself entirely and loyaly to you or whatever
If women truly were like that, societies wouldn't have needed to restrict women.
Her self interest and solipsism is what influences their indifference towards men and their spouses.
@Artemis she may love you for the honey moon phase, but other than that a woman doesnt love you. The last part is a dream of yours, cause you are hoping to find a NAWALT. It is a false dream.. Get it out of your system
Not really the want for protection.
She doesn't love in the honey moon phase Lol.
@Mysteriedingens some still do. Maybe not many where you currently are. But they do exist
Okay, what the fuck is this timeout bullshit?
Are there Moslems here?
Some does not mean a large portion.
Some simply means that exceptions exist but not in large numbers.
@Mysteriedingens it is not a dream of mine. I am not gay.
His "some" are just the girls with proper nurturing from a father figure without getting spoonfed with narcissism and princess-indoctrination. But this girls still have always options other than you.
back in VC
@Artemis what was your longest relationship
alright
Nice discussion btw
@Mysteriedingens again, that seems to be an awfully pessimistic way to look at it. Of course they have other options, but each and everyone could be that exact option for somebody
Zero months. Never had a serious relationship. @Mysteriedingens
Dude, that's some naive bluepilled thinking. A lot of men have walked that path and have gotten burned, for how things are now, you're taking a pretty big of a risk.
You stand to gain nothing from a relationship and quite a lot to lose.
What risk?
Losing the stuff you've earned, your kids etc.,
Child support
Alimony