Message from @𓆏 𓆏 𓆏

Discord ID: 665943771510341682


2020-01-12 13:01:19 UTC  

lords are protected by parliamentary privelege just like the commons

2020-01-12 13:04:26 UTC  

Isnt the privilege just as fragile as the rest of our laws?

2020-01-12 13:04:39 UTC  

Thus they can just decide to not do that now and do.something else?

2020-01-12 13:07:50 UTC  

looks like they'll all harumph at him, but there'll be nothing they can do legally

2020-01-12 13:08:04 UTC  

what was it he was supposed to have said?

2020-01-12 13:08:24 UTC  

Idk

2020-01-12 13:08:39 UTC  

inb4 it was innocuous boomer trolling

2020-01-12 13:09:04 UTC  

oh ffs

2020-01-12 13:09:11 UTC  

he called her "queer"

2020-01-12 13:09:14 UTC  

called it

2020-01-12 13:09:38 UTC  

Gay SNP MP gets called a "queer", and goes "REEEEEEE!"

2020-01-12 13:09:49 UTC  

All respect for Rees Mogg GONE

2020-01-12 13:10:07 UTC  

Yep, he has given in

2020-01-12 13:14:33 UTC  

Given the relentless class-based shit and accusations of nazism Mogg gets, it's hard to see why he even entertains these clowns

2020-01-12 13:14:40 UTC  

Spose he's just trying to be the bigger man

2020-01-12 14:18:54 UTC  

*FIX BAYONETS*

2020-01-12 15:29:03 UTC  

ha ha ha

2020-01-12 15:32:55 UTC  

AKKADED

2020-01-12 15:34:02 UTC  

TBH the HoL should be abolished

2020-01-12 15:42:47 UTC  

It should be reformed, abolishing it leaves a pretty sizeable vacuum

2020-01-12 15:45:43 UTC  

aka abolish

2020-01-12 15:46:16 UTC  

Reformation would keep the core ideas intact, that's not what should happen

2020-01-12 15:46:40 UTC  

idk the house of regions & nations feels like a good idea

2020-01-12 15:48:37 UTC  

seems like it addresses every grievance appropriately

2020-01-12 15:53:56 UTC  

Can we abolish Mayday as a Bank Holiday?

2020-01-12 15:55:21 UTC  

We could just use the Commons alone

2020-01-12 15:55:34 UTC  

We don't necessarily need a second house

2020-01-12 15:59:14 UTC  

You'd need one to keep the other in check, which is the Lord's supposed purpose

2020-01-12 16:00:13 UTC  

The Lords can't do that anyway though

2020-01-12 16:00:20 UTC  

The Commons can easily bypass the Lords

2020-01-12 16:08:01 UTC  

Ye, 'supposed', but having one house is a bad idea if there isn't a way of checking and vetting what they pass

2020-01-12 16:08:54 UTC  

I suppose you could have the Monarch do that, but I don't think that'd last long

2020-01-12 16:09:18 UTC  

What we could do actually is have one house elected by FPTP and another elected by PR

2020-01-12 16:35:19 UTC  

yah, tbh the commons can bypass the lords, but the lords have a microphone to sound alarm bells that can fuck up the commons optics

2020-01-12 17:06:25 UTC  
2020-01-12 17:19:14 UTC  

The issue is PR still would not work then. Because all that would happen law would be made in the tory commons, then when its passed up to the second house that would be PR (and therefore 45% approx tory) it would fail. You would have the same issue that we had with BRexit and a minority government

2020-01-12 17:19:58 UTC  

And no laws would get passed, the opposition would rail on the government saying "see, cant do anything" and eventually they would win by blocking everything else

2020-01-12 17:21:25 UTC  

PR only works when parties are not polarised, and it is fair to say Labour, LibDems, SNP, and nearly every other opposition party is so polarised they would never work *with* the government unless they got everything they wanted- which isn't how coalitions etc are supposed to work

2020-01-12 17:24:41 UTC  

We could just keep the power the same and ensure that the second house can't block the commons

2020-01-12 17:26:20 UTC  

My musing: say the houses be such: the lower is PR, the upper is FPTP. What would that look like?