Message from @Kunarian
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How in the fuck do we join the Eu in the next year
With no election and a stable parliament
I don’t even like tories but it’s not possible
I wonder how ridiculous the EU's demands could be before they finally say no
Like how much could the EU offer up front in cash, before they say no
demand*
I should say
i want the remainers and rejoiners to just stfu for now
we will never rejoin
try convincing people to go back in, but have to sign up to euro, combined military and other stuff we cant opt out of if we rejoined
Lib dems or labour became the party of rejoin they’re dead
Basically
Become*
I tried that argument, but got "Good, it'll make it impossible for us to try and leave again" thrown back at me :/
Which is why we want them to become that
Or at least the Lib Dem’s
Then tories have no opposition and can do anything
i don't think labour will campaign for rejoin, at least not before the next election
tories are still surging
in polls
@TheRandomist That is treasonous
It’s not a logic that will jive with most of the country
Just 20% or so hardcore remainers
Depends on the leader but I think labour in future will just try and campaign for a “better post brexit future for the many”
granted, 3 polls wont mean anything in 5 years time at the next election, but the second boris bounce is impressive
After 20 years out politics will have normalised
Yes, though they've been vocally pro further EU integration and for giving up our special conditions since before there was any talk of the referendum @Hopix , surprisingly we're able to have civil conversations about politics usually, though we have to agree to disagree on Brexit because we know neither of us is budging towards the other at all.
Remainers don't care about the country, or it's people
That's what you need to come to terms with
This article is why @Kunarian and similar's position on welfare are untennable in the real world
Stories like this seem to be getting more and more frequent
It chimes with my experience of the DWP
And is why i'm against the obsession with means-testing and taking people's support away
ANd why I want something more akin to universal basic welfare
The problem is that they want to ensure that no one is receiving welfare who doesn't need it, But the policy they use to find out is far too strict
The main problem is just cost