All you have to do to enter the mindset of the Remoaners, if you're not British, is to think about the kinds of garbage the "Lost Cause" historical revisionism spouted by neo-Confederates

I'd like to see the % of people that would want to be part of the EU without our special allowances

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/331196252949577740/655509718772482079/tenor.gif

How in the fuck do we join the Eu in the next year

With no election and a stable parliament

I don’t even like tories but it’s not possible

I wonder how ridiculous the EU's demands could be before they finally say no

Like how much could the EU offer up front in cash, before they say no

demand*

I should say

i want the remainers and rejoiners to just stfu for now

we will never rejoin

try convincing people to go back in, but have to sign up to euro, combined military and other stuff we cant opt out of if we rejoined

Lib dems or labour became the party of rejoin they’re dead

Basically

Become*

I tried that argument, but got "Good, it'll make it impossible for us to try and leave again" thrown back at me :/

Which is why we want them to become that

Or at least the Lib Dem’s

Then tories have no opposition and can do anything

i don't think labour will campaign for rejoin, at least not before the next election

tories are still surging

To suck remainers from Labour

in polls

@TheRandomist That is treasonous

It’s not a logic that will jive with most of the country

https://i.imgur.com/hXzQEF7.png

Just 20% or so hardcore remainers

Depends on the leader but I think labour in future will just try and campaign for a “better post brexit future for the many”

granted, 3 polls wont mean anything in 5 years time at the next election, but the second boris bounce is impressive

After 20 years out politics will have normalised

Yes, though they've been vocally pro further EU integration and for giving up our special conditions since before there was any talk of the referendum @Hopix , surprisingly we're able to have civil conversations about politics usually, though we have to agree to disagree on Brexit because we know neither of us is budging towards the other at all.

https://twitter.com/BorisJohnson/status/1222280472132308993

Remainers don't care about the country, or it's people

That's what you need to come to terms with

This article is why @Kunarian and similar's position on welfare are untennable in the real world

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2020/jan/28/disabled-man-starved-to-death-after-dwp-stopped-his-benefits

Stories like this seem to be getting more and more frequent

It chimes with my experience of the DWP

And is why i'm against the obsession with means-testing and taking people's support away

ANd why I want something more akin to universal basic welfare