Message from @johl kohl
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@BabaBooey there haven't had consecutive famines since prehistoric times, you DO know that, right? There's generally a long period of time between two famines....
Same with Vietnam
there's a video of a white guy returning to Zimbabwe and his former farm-staff are all cheering
did farmers in zimbabwe slaughter millions of livestock as a protest ?
and they're all black
>Be Stalin
>see kulaks withholding food as act of war
>deport kulaks to Siberia
>food production goes down
>see poor farmers withholding sowing grain as act of war
>declare the farmers kulaks
>deport and shoot them
>famine accrues
>surprised pikachu face
@johl kohl thats not how the famine occured
is there any evidence that it was common for actualy peasants to be considered kulaks
It's one of the reasons
they weere also hoarding grain to sell to starving people
what was not an act of war to stalin?
and slaughtering livestock in protest
only a few thousand kulaks at most were directly executed
bread speculators
Ukraine was the breadbasket of Europe
You don't go from that to about 8 million deaths because of bad weather that just coincidentally happens to occur at around the same time the farm-managers are killed or driven out and the farms placed under 'collective' management, which seems to be a term for incompetent management
They slaughtered livestock, because that was the only food they had left
I bet he shot his own farts because it was an act of war on his nose
Then they ate cats
And dogs
stalin was retarded
the ukraine can produce a lot of food but it can also produce very little
bulgaria is the breadbasket of europe
Only a few thousand?
ukraine is a very volatile place to grow crops
All while Stalin was exporting grain
the eastern european region has the highest yield variability of any major grain producing region in the world with the ukraine having the highest yield variability in that region
let's praise communism
Between 1917 to 1933 the estimates of Kulaks killed were 530,000 to 5,000,000
that means the amount of grain it produces fluctuates a lot
what estimates are these
our groroius reader
mao peezdong
The Harvest of Sorrow: Soviet Collectivization and the Terror-Famine - Robert Conquest (1986)
Save us oh based communism
well sure uber, but it's still not quite the same as zimbabwe
how did conquest come to that estimate though
Don't be commiephobic, breathe it in, anon
How'd you get a few thousand
Conquest's are the higher end