And dogs

stalin was retarded

Then mud

the ukraine can produce a lot of food but it can also produce very little

bulgaria is the breadbasket of europe

Only a few thousand?

ukraine is a very volatile place to grow crops

All while Stalin was exporting grain

the eastern european region has the highest yield variability of any major grain producing region in the world with the ukraine having the highest yield variability in that region

let's praise communism

Between 1917 to 1933 the estimates of Kulaks killed were 530,000 to 5,000,000

that means the amount of grain it produces fluctuates a lot

@fvriovs source?

what estimates are these

our groroius reader

mao peezdong

The Harvest of Sorrow: Soviet Collectivization and the Terror-Famine - Robert Conquest (1986)

Save us oh based communism

well sure uber, but it's still not quite the same as zimbabwe

how did conquest come to that estimate though

Don't be commiephobic, breathe it in, anon

How'd you get a few thousand

Conquest's are the higher end

Don't worry, it's just a flu

Census made by soviets in 1933 showed 8 million people less, than before famines and dekulakisation

i'm basing it off of the archives regarding executions carried out by the nkvd that were made available for public viewing after the fall of the ussr

the lower estimations are about 500,000

Yeah I don't believe for one second that the archives were fully disclosed

well i mean

If you do you're really fucking naive

@Death in June such as official soviet archives?

it's not like they're exactly flattering

Because I'd take official soviet sources with a couple grains of salt

i mean they show the nkvd carried out like 700k executions or something

@Death in June yep checks out

i don't really see why they would downplay dekulakization but not yezhovschchina

>> kill all the competent people because you are afraid of smarts
>> set people you trust who are worthless in that trade
>> see everything collapse
was not real communism bro

mccarthyist source for communist "body counts"

hmmm

Also i don't know why people don't call mass execution of Poles under Stalin a genocide. He literally said he wants every Pole killed

Nigga Breathe The Communism In