Message from @Death in June
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they weere also hoarding grain to sell to starving people
what was not an act of war to stalin?
and slaughtering livestock in protest
only a few thousand kulaks at most were directly executed
bread speculators
Ukraine was the breadbasket of Europe
You don't go from that to about 8 million deaths because of bad weather that just coincidentally happens to occur at around the same time the farm-managers are killed or driven out and the farms placed under 'collective' management, which seems to be a term for incompetent management
They slaughtered livestock, because that was the only food they had left
I bet he shot his own farts because it was an act of war on his nose
Then they ate cats
And dogs
stalin was retarded
Then mud
the ukraine can produce a lot of food but it can also produce very little
bulgaria is the breadbasket of europe
Only a few thousand?
ukraine is a very volatile place to grow crops
All while Stalin was exporting grain
the eastern european region has the highest yield variability of any major grain producing region in the world with the ukraine having the highest yield variability in that region
let's praise communism
Between 1917 to 1933 the estimates of Kulaks killed were 530,000 to 5,000,000
what estimates are these
our groroius reader
mao peezdong
The Harvest of Sorrow: Soviet Collectivization and the Terror-Famine - Robert Conquest (1986)
Save us oh based communism
well sure uber, but it's still not quite the same as zimbabwe
how did conquest come to that estimate though
Don't be commiephobic, breathe it in, anon
How'd you get a few thousand
Conquest's are the higher end
Don't worry, it's just a flu
Census made by soviets in 1933 showed 8 million people less, than before famines and dekulakisation
i'm basing it off of the archives regarding executions carried out by the nkvd that were made available for public viewing after the fall of the ussr
the lower estimations are about 500,000
Yeah I don't believe for one second that the archives were fully disclosed
well i mean
If you do you're really fucking naive
@Death in June such as official soviet archives?
it's not like they're exactly flattering