Yeah that seems to be the case

you could argue that the peasants didn't know how to manage the farm or didn't have the proper incentives in place

but obviously they had farming experience

@ubermensch its weird how china has been racked with massive famines regularly since prehistoric times then after mao , one last famine and thrn they stopped hmmm

since they were peasants

And I'm sure the black people working on the farms in Zimbabwe knew how to use a plough

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/678531385123667998/680163595409293379/Capitalism.jpg

doesn't mean they can run the farm

China is currently the manager of a highly productive capitalism in their country

no they didn't have farming experience

who would win:
>> communist country
>> one virus

afaik

I mean

It’s been that way since 1977

@BabaBooey there haven't had consecutive famines since prehistoric times, you DO know that, right? There's generally a long period of time between two famines....

Same with Vietnam

there's a video of a white guy returning to Zimbabwe and his former farm-staff are all cheering

did farmers in zimbabwe slaughter millions of livestock as a protest ?

and they're all black

>Be Stalin
>see kulaks withholding food as act of war
>deport kulaks to Siberia
>food production goes down
>see poor farmers withholding sowing grain as act of war
>declare the farmers kulaks
>deport and shoot them
>famine accrues
>surprised pikachu face

@johl kohl thats not how the famine occured

is there any evidence that it was common for actualy peasants to be considered kulaks

It's one of the reasons

they weere also hoarding grain to sell to starving people

what was not an act of war to stalin?

and slaughtering livestock in protest

only a few thousand kulaks at most were directly executed

bread speculators

Ukraine was the breadbasket of Europe

You don't go from that to about 8 million deaths because of bad weather that just coincidentally happens to occur at around the same time the farm-managers are killed or driven out and the farms placed under 'collective' management, which seems to be a term for incompetent management

They slaughtered livestock, because that was the only food they had left

I bet he shot his own farts because it was an act of war on his nose

Then they ate cats

And dogs

stalin was retarded

Then mud

the ukraine can produce a lot of food but it can also produce very little

bulgaria is the breadbasket of europe

Only a few thousand?

ukraine is a very volatile place to grow crops

All while Stalin was exporting grain

the eastern european region has the highest yield variability of any major grain producing region in the world with the ukraine having the highest yield variability in that region