Message from @Whitey
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The point is that the individual has certain rights on their property that ensures their saftey from people who wish harm (burgulars and such). However, the collective have a right to be safe as well so they impose some laws that may infringe on peoples indivdualality. THIS is why rape is bad and why growing weed is okay.; weed does little harm and so can be grown on ones property because the collective say so.
I personally believe that john was meaningfully contributing to the discussion by invoking the collectivist implications of reproduction.
NO rape is bad because it violates CONSENT of the INDIVIDUAL.
The individual is what's real. What acts and feels and decides. The collective only exists as a philosophical concept
yet how do people then live in a soicety.
Only the ladder is real
yeah a society isn't a tangible object, either
A society can be reduced to the level of cooperating (or not cooperating in the case of socialist societies) individuals.
When you try to give power to collectivist entities you're really just giving power to certain individuals. Concepts such as the collectivist arise because they help us understand the world around us. But people are inclined to get confused, believing that the collective exists independent of the individual and is entitled to its own rights and powers
Lets just come down for a sec. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6FSh11QPlc
catholics love the collective
Boomer: I HEAR YOURE A RACIST NOW FATHER
that is why they do not believe in contraception
take father ted here
And Catholics also love smashing alterboi rectums
a totally terrible thing
can an anus consent independently of the consciousness of the mind?
the anus is nothing withou the collective body and SHAFT
whose the black sex machine SHAFT
black sex machine can be interpreted as all black people thereby being a collective
even though there are indivduals (SHAFT) they make up a whole body (sex machines)
silence speaks volumes
The collective may be 'created' as you say but it exists becasue people act like one.
Another example from the ever on top of Father Ted
He offends Asians, which then results in all asians on the island taking offence. Therby acting as a collective and being imune to what a lite joke, also showing that collectives can have similar traits like being humourless unless and the 'whites' expence (see bar scene in same episode)
It's still individuals taking offense. It's also not that irrational if ted is insulting traits that they all share or denigrating all people who belong to that group
"A society can be reduced to the level of cooperating (or not cooperating in the case of socialist societies) individuals."
so if a group of cooperating individuals choose to suspend the rights of a non-cooperating individual...? 🤔
FUCK GOOKS KILL ALL CHINKI NIP SCUM
Do you mean gooks as a collective?
dont be ridiculous
individual gooks act as members of a greater hivemind
similar to Jesus's role in the holy trinity
In the same way insulting Christ is personally offensive to the holy spirit, insulting gooks is offensive to the chink hivemind
Individuals become collective take this scene from monty python French v English
There's no great confusion there. You just don't have a high enough iq to understand. There's nothing inconsistent with individualism about punishing individuals who violate a shared agreement among individuals to obey certain rules or face certain consequences
Individuals make up collectives and so in ways that have been blinded to me you seem to have a point John