Message from @nathan
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John is woke af on the gook question
maybe your IQ is too high for you to realise my original point still stands that you have no choice but to live in a collective
and can maybe renegotiate the terms of your social contract, but the contract is imposed upon you
That's like saying the grass is green. It's not an argument for socialist policies
oh but it is
how do you distribute land such that everyone has the opportunity to own a home
for example
you can't have indefinite property ownership
you can't own land as a corpse
you have a right to 50 years burial in the UK
you pay council tax for a right to stay on your land
you pay capital gains tax
understanding there are limits at which point putting your rights before those of everyone else becomes a problem is just being realistic
understanding there are hierarchies of rights is being realistic
although that wasn't the original point now, was it
you said:
"People consent to the legal structure at the start"
"Uh yeah obviously the collective oppressed people. That's why I'm against all forms of collectivism, including socialism and socialized healthcare"
"Not in a libertarian society where everyone consents to the law (for children implied consent until they can make their own choices) if you don't consent you can leave"
and my point has been, and will remain to be:
"you don't get a choice"
Why are you against socialized healthcare?
Isn't it better to pay slightly more taxes for healthcare than to pay for private healthcare?
>slightly more
Where the hell do you live
The US
Over here if you don't have Medicare or Medicaid you will 100% for sure go into debt if you go to the hospital
Unless you make tons of money
"slightly more"
for you
wut
I don’t have to foot the bill so it’s free
100 go into debt
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What do you mean slightly more for me?
tfw you paid 30,000 dollars in taxes
I think "providing healthcare" should fall into the "government needs ensure people can live" thing.
You’re going to pay slightly more for jackshit
It does in pretty much everywhere except the US, DKO
where does it say that is the job of the gov
The problem is, government-run healthcare system tends to go to shit.
Unless you're an anarchist, what do you think the role of the government should be?
protecting negative rights
To make war and conquer right neocon?
that are laid out by our constitution
Should the government ensure the population isn't being poisoned?
wut
does