Message from @DanConway

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2018-02-06 14:46:07 UTC  

That's like saying the grass is green. It's not an argument for socialist policies

2018-02-06 14:46:16 UTC  

oh but it is

2018-02-06 14:46:27 UTC  

how do you distribute land such that everyone has the opportunity to own a home

2018-02-06 14:46:28 UTC  

for example

2018-02-06 14:46:34 UTC  

you can't have indefinite property ownership

2018-02-06 14:46:41 UTC  

you can't own land as a corpse

2018-02-06 14:47:01 UTC  

you have a right to 50 years burial in the UK

2018-02-06 14:47:43 UTC  

you pay council tax for a right to stay on your land

2018-02-06 14:47:59 UTC  

you pay capital gains tax

2018-02-06 14:48:57 UTC  

understanding there are limits at which point putting your rights before those of everyone else becomes a problem is just being realistic

2018-02-06 14:50:16 UTC  

understanding there are hierarchies of rights is being realistic

2018-02-06 15:04:26 UTC  

although that wasn't the original point now, was it

2018-02-06 15:05:34 UTC  

you said:
"People consent to the legal structure at the start"
"Uh yeah obviously the collective oppressed people. That's why I'm against all forms of collectivism, including socialism and socialized healthcare"
"Not in a libertarian society where everyone consents to the law (for children implied consent until they can make their own choices) if you don't consent you can leave"
and my point has been, and will remain to be:
"you don't get a choice"

2018-02-07 02:37:57 UTC  

Why are you against socialized healthcare?

2018-02-07 02:38:50 UTC  

Isn't it better to pay slightly more taxes for healthcare than to pay for private healthcare?

2018-02-07 03:24:46 UTC  

>slightly more
Where the hell do you live

2018-02-07 03:25:01 UTC  

The US

2018-02-07 03:25:30 UTC  

Over here if you don't have Medicare or Medicaid you will 100% for sure go into debt if you go to the hospital

2018-02-07 03:25:53 UTC  

Unless you make tons of money

2018-02-07 03:29:49 UTC  

"slightly more"
for you

2018-02-07 03:30:26 UTC  


2018-02-07 03:30:32 UTC  

I don’t have to foot the bill so it’s free

2018-02-07 03:30:33 UTC  

100 go into debt

2018-02-07 03:30:42 UTC  


2018-02-07 03:31:23 UTC  

What do you mean slightly more for me?

2018-02-07 03:31:32 UTC  

tfw you paid 30,000 dollars in taxes

2018-02-07 03:32:04 UTC  

I think "providing healthcare" should fall into the "government needs ensure people can live" thing.

2018-02-07 03:32:13 UTC  

You’re going to pay slightly more for jackshit

2018-02-07 03:32:31 UTC  

It does in pretty much everywhere except the US, DKO

2018-02-07 03:33:03 UTC  

where does it say that is the job of the gov

2018-02-07 03:33:06 UTC  

The problem is, government-run healthcare system tends to go to shit.

2018-02-07 03:33:35 UTC  

Unless you're an anarchist, what do you think the role of the government should be?

2018-02-07 03:33:47 UTC  

protecting negative rights

2018-02-07 03:34:02 UTC  

To make war and conquer right neocon?

2018-02-07 03:34:03 UTC  

that are laid out by our constitution

2018-02-07 03:34:13 UTC  

Should the government ensure the population isn't being poisoned?

2018-02-07 03:34:20 UTC  


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