the substances are inherently harmful at a potency that people would want to use to get high

keep in mind that I'm not necessarily talking about these people's bodies, I don't really care about what happens to their bodies

Potency and addiction are correlate. A substance that is less potent is less addictive.

its socially harmful because they're unproductive drug addicts

that is not how addiction works

https://texasbreakingnews.com/breaking/wanted-man-suspected-of-using-chainsaw-to-dismember-missing-girlfriend/

people seek higher and higher potency

I'm sure there were fewer opioid-related deaths during the opium trade days than today.

Cindy is doing well, we're glad to have her home
She slept in vomit now, she sleep on methadone but she
Stopped ripping off her neighbors
Stopped taking change from strangers
Stopped shooting needles full of dreams into her arms

It's still addictive

physically

scumfucks

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I don't think a lot of people understand that

Again, assuming that all drugs users immediately become addicts, and all addiction is harmful. Many rich people do coke, but don't immediately spiral downwards. Many drugs, if done correct, aren't even addictive. Like adderall and morphine, simply controlling your dossage can prevent your brain from developing a tolerance.

you are essentially proposing that after drug legalization, drugs would change such that people would be able to be fully functional while addicted to them @Weaboo Kempeitai which is a completely ridiculous thing to say

it doesn't matter, people won't do that

@Deleted User We were talking about taxes. Not about the legitimization of force that is being used to extort these taxes.

people won't not become addicted

these aren't arguments

>don't immediately spiral downwards

I'm not going to continue with you until you realize how stupid what you're saying is

If we're talking about drugs, what about the Portugal's model?

its just a complete rejection of reality

You don't understand. Prohibition correlates with potency. Many legal drugs, including alcohol, have become less potent.

Yes, I do think drugs can be improved to better serve society. We can make mood altering drugs that don't have as damaging side effects. We should.

Let people OD on shit.

Survival of the fittest

let nature work

Yes

@Tuze Didn't they go the route of legalisation?

BASTE

@Weaboo Kempeitai decriminalization

@Tuze Yes, but not good enough.

Nerthulas saliva gets me high

Salvia is the craziest drug ive ever had

I wouldn't call it a high

@Deleted User Not an argument. My statement is that the act of taxation without consent is theft.

It lasts 5 min

Yes, I do.

People moralfag with cocaine and heroin to people who want to legalise benefitial drugs like PCP.

@Weaboo Kempeitai what you need to do if you want to continue on the topic is this: for every nitpick or question that you have about why legalization of a drug will cause more people to be addicted to it, you need to iteratively think about what my response (the obvious response) will be - do this until you understand that legalizing drugs will increase the number of people who are addicted to them in a given society, then we can continue the conversation