Message from @A. Spader
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is it alright to ask how much experience does Pius have in arguments regarding Godship
Legendary
evidencial moralism doesn't exist
so fondboy's seeking on the subject is actually logically impossible to argue
First thing, never push God onto others...you can let them know but that’s it.
Citation needed, can't just say its true
you can't argue an objective evidence to morality without a divinity
which you can't argue towards in the first place
@myth For Pius, do you think that logic as an a priori has been definitively enough established?
Even if you had a divinity to argue from, you wouldn't be arguing for objective morality....
https://i.imgur.com/yiZeVQN.png o shit Gosar sending secret codes
It would just be subjective to the deity
There are objective morals though.
by divinity I'm not referring to a subject of the mind, by divinity I mean something that is beyond realms of reality and controls that reality
objective morals in 2019 good meme
How do you objectively measure those morals?
that's part of what I'm talking about
@lanceleader thats a whole realm of philsophical debate which does not yet have a definitive answer.
without an objective divinity to define an objective morality, you can't have either
I actually think I believe what @Fondboy position is on this. (Waits for the lightning bolt)
what would that be Frasty
that's what I'm arguing about, which is the problem with asking the question about seeking a enpirical moral framework
Murder is an objective moral.
frosty
@lanceleader That doesn't really answer the question
@lanceleader true because it is by definition unlawful
I need some sort of proof, not words
No, I am not talking about laws. Not murdering is an objective moral.
If you say you want to debate someone on a topic it's up to that person to prove their position. Don't think that was achieved
All I got as an answer was it'sd true
Thought thatr why we are here to prove that
That either requires more explanation or doesnt make sense
tl;dr I believe it so you should as well; if you are a good human you do if not be gone with you.
Thats all I got outta this'
I suspect thats not a charitable interpretation of what was said. Call me crazy
That’s the problem with having preaching that tries to enforce belief. You can share the ideas of God and Christianity but you don’t have a right to force it on people. Those that will listen, will listen, and the others will go on not believing. You did your job by sharing the word.
Pius argued that you can only subtract 1 from the universe so far before you hit Ø; And Ø is God.
Honestly, @Fondboy, we were depending on you, and you failed us. Utterly. 😤
"we"
People were depending on anyone in this debate?
This is the clostest you will get to this question
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_oQkSh2lq8&t=50s