True reone

It’s not something I’m against but taking down the welfare state is again, a good first step

I’m all for helping each other out but that’s not what I meant when I said abolish welfare

^

Welfare is a shorthand for the welfare state in America

He knows.

Yeah, don’t think we have anything to disagree on. Welfare is good. I loved my granny when she was dying for two years with cancer and couldn’t get out of bed.

Problem is the word itself has been corrupted

Look at how “general welfare” is seen now

Making me pay for some other fuck to look after her would have been wrong on so many different levels

The focus seems to have gone from the phrase itself and onto just welfare

And nah, see, that’s one of the things I don’t like about Shapiro as well

You mean like siphoning off 95% for other things?

His talk of moving to find jobs because free market doesn’t really stick when he himself admits living close to his parents and in-laws provide substantial benefit that can’t be measured on a simple cost/benefit scale

Rather substantial blind spot

Wrong level of economic analysis he has, pontificate he should avoid...

And considering a lot of people do the opposite, ie, move and then bring their relatives with them, it definitely provides a level of support and some other benefit that simply cannot be seen through an economic lens

His insistence on “move because there are jobs and you would perform economically better” is missing the forest for the trees

It can. Just adjust the focus on your scope. And see all the bits. He’s not an engineer nor scientist

You reckon?

Yup, been there, done that;)

Cause I think the benefits are something that only be measured on a communal or an emotional sense here

Not economical

That can*

It can. Which is why things like delivery works as a business

And I guess if you were to put a dollar value on someone going to a shrink or something to make up for their familial disconnect you can

I just don’t see it as the most effective way of measuring the effects

No, seriously, I’m almost strawmanning myself

Tear this apart and tell me why having my food delivered or an au pair is not long term good 👹🤯

I mean, if I can put an economic value on not preparing supper, or looking after my kids, or taxing it when I can?

> good parenting is white supremacy

Fuck me

Lol. Fool

You should be able to rip me a new orrifice better than that!!?

Nah, I see where you’re coming from, but as I said, I just don’t think it’s the most effective way of measuring it... which is kinda strange since the other ways can’t really be measured

Ah well fair enough I guess

Absolutely right though, I wouldn’t have been able to raise my daughter if my parents weren’t around to help

Not can’t. Just damn difficult and seldom done

That’s almost invaluable

Mmm, agreed

You mean.. “for everything else there is MasterCard?”