Collective people's ownership without a state apparatus

No.

No

is anarchism?

"They're"

lmao

What is a "state apparatus"?

Just no

I think there's one person here attacking the anarkiddies

And how do you have ownership without constructing an institution of coercion and compulsion?

Workers ownership

You can have worker ownership without a state

Never said you couldn't

I said it simply doesn't work without the state

However you define state, you need some coercive power to compel people to respect the owner's decisions regarding their property

>muh private property

The workers are the owner, get on my level

The workers of *what* get to own *what*?

@ego_sum_jeffum How so? Anarchist movements have been much more successful than authsoc ones, only reason they fell was because of suppression by Tankies and and fash

Does everyone own everything all at once?

Anarchist movement haven't been successful

@Katherine the workers control the means of production. In other words, the laborers in a factory own that factory, etc

Because they've never worked

Or were true anarchism

Lol

I see anarchists are the most secretarian

@Марко Then the workers of a given factory need some sort of coercive agency to enforce their decisions regarding what they own

Which is the State

mhmm

@Katherine

Also you claim to be a Marxist but you proceed to say "currency is necessary" while Marx explicitly sought that communism was the abolishment of capital altogether

@ego_sum_jeffum

I said currency was necessary before full communism

@Katherine that is not true. Workers can be their own masters without the need for a state

Once scarcity is gone we don't need any form of currency

@Марко example?

Scarcity will never be gone, but resources can be conserved.

Revolutionary Catalonia, Paris Commune, etc

@Марко A non-worker comes to the factory and wants to use it to make a different kind of toy than the workers want. What happens?

The Ukranian Free Territory

Scarcity can be gone