Message from @Марко

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2017-08-06 04:33:10 UTC  

I recommend you anarkiddies read State and Revolution

2017-08-06 04:33:24 UTC  

Convert you to Marxism Leninism in one step

2017-08-06 04:33:24 UTC  

Okay, so Imma just count the questions and keep a tally of the things you need to answer

2017-08-06 04:33:35 UTC  

No, not at all. Marxism is dumb

2017-08-06 04:33:38 UTC  

define anrachism, please.

2017-08-06 04:33:44 UTC  

pretty simple honestly

2017-08-06 04:33:54 UTC  

"Anarchism means no rules hahahahaha xcddddhdhdhdh"

2017-08-06 04:34:01 UTC  

I asked them that on TCB server, they responded with the google dfinition

2017-08-06 04:34:10 UTC  

so they're probably gonna respond with my correction

2017-08-06 04:34:11 UTC  

Collective people's ownership without a state apparatus

2017-08-06 04:34:18 UTC  

No.

2017-08-06 04:34:20 UTC  

No

2017-08-06 04:34:20 UTC  

is anarchism?

2017-08-06 04:34:21 UTC  

"They're"

2017-08-06 04:34:22 UTC  

lmao

2017-08-06 04:34:22 UTC  

What is a "state apparatus"?

2017-08-06 04:34:23 UTC  

Just no

2017-08-06 04:34:35 UTC  

I think there's one person here attacking the anarkiddies

2017-08-06 04:34:42 UTC  

And how do you have ownership without constructing an institution of coercion and compulsion?

2017-08-06 04:35:03 UTC  

Workers ownership

2017-08-06 04:35:18 UTC  

You can have worker ownership without a state

2017-08-06 04:35:48 UTC  

Never said you couldn't

2017-08-06 04:36:00 UTC  

I said it simply doesn't work without the state

2017-08-06 04:36:01 UTC  

However you define state, you need some coercive power to compel people to respect the owner's decisions regarding their property

2017-08-06 04:36:16 UTC  

>muh private property

2017-08-06 04:36:35 UTC  

The workers are the owner, get on my level

2017-08-06 04:36:49 UTC  

The workers of *what* get to own *what*?

2017-08-06 04:37:00 UTC  

@ego_sum_jeffum How so? Anarchist movements have been much more successful than authsoc ones, only reason they fell was because of suppression by Tankies and and fash

2017-08-06 04:37:01 UTC  

Does everyone own everything all at once?

2017-08-06 04:37:32 UTC  

Anarchist movement haven't been successful

2017-08-06 04:37:36 UTC  

@Katherine the workers control the means of production. In other words, the laborers in a factory own that factory, etc

2017-08-06 04:37:39 UTC  

Because they've never worked

2017-08-06 04:37:45 UTC  

Or were true anarchism

2017-08-06 04:37:46 UTC  

Lol

2017-08-06 04:38:11 UTC  

I see anarchists are the most secretarian

2017-08-06 04:38:20 UTC  

@Марко Then the workers of a given factory need some sort of coercive agency to enforce their decisions regarding what they own

2017-08-06 04:38:31 UTC  

Which is the State

2017-08-06 04:38:36 UTC  

mhmm

2017-08-06 04:38:36 UTC  
2017-08-06 04:38:51 UTC  

Also you claim to be a Marxist but you proceed to say "currency is necessary" while Marx explicitly sought that communism was the abolishment of capital altogether

2017-08-06 04:38:55 UTC