What do you think they mean lel

Marxism-Leninism is neither Marxist nor Leninist

I recommend you read Marx

"Anarchism means no rules hahahahaha xcddddhdhdhdh"

No

Just no

You can have worker ownership without a state

@ego_sum_jeffum How so? Anarchist movements have been much more successful than authsoc ones, only reason they fell was because of suppression by Tankies and and fash

@Katherine the workers control the means of production. In other words, the laborers in a factory own that factory, etc

Lol

Also you claim to be a Marxist but you proceed to say "currency is necessary" while Marx explicitly sought that communism was the abolishment of capital altogether

@ego_sum_jeffum

@Katherine that is not true. Workers can be their own masters without the need for a state

Revolutionary Catalonia, Paris Commune, etc

@Katherine if he labors to make the toy then he is a worker

And thus owns the MOP along with the other workers

Rather simple

How do you "shove them aside"

Lol what

Who forced them to stop working?

The individual is free to individually own their own MOP if the workers of an existing factory do not wish to make the same toy as him @Katherine

MLs are state capitalists

It's not ridiculous

In regards to Marxism Leninism it is true

@Katherine How the fuck did he force all the workers without an apparatus to impose his will on the others like a state?

I think you're simply misunderstanding how worker controlled MOP works

And Anarchist theory in general

@Katherine then the workers of an MOP can democratically decide how to run their own workplace and you are free to associate or not associate

*consensus Democracy

Should have specified

If they don't they are free to associate or not and control their own MOP or associate with another group of individuals @Katherine

@Katherine they're not being excluded from their own ownership. If they no longer work the MOP then they no longer should control it. Whether or not they choose to is up to the individual to freely decide for themself. Also, in regards to controlling a workplace, consensus ultimately would be the best solution. While as I have said they don't have to work that MOP. They can choose to freely associate with whoever they choose or even own an MOP individually and once they start laboring they have rights to that MOP. If you work in factory A and you don't like how it is being run you can start factory B and run it however you and your fellow workers wish

Thanks :)

You do, everyone participates in consensus equally

Um I just wrote a whole thing and it disappeared

The fuck

Anyway

As long as you still work the MOP you haven't lost ownership. You haven't lost control because you participated in the consensus equally. @Katherine

I'm referring to the process by which you reach consensus, consensus democracy

All of the worker's opinions would be shared and discussed until consensus could be reached

It's not exclusion if you voluntarily leave lol

Ego strikes me as an edgy 12 year old who thinks Stalin was cool