Message from @Марко

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2017-08-06 04:38:36 UTC  
2017-08-06 04:38:51 UTC  

Also you claim to be a Marxist but you proceed to say "currency is necessary" while Marx explicitly sought that communism was the abolishment of capital altogether

2017-08-06 04:38:55 UTC  
2017-08-06 04:39:14 UTC  

I said currency was necessary before full communism

2017-08-06 04:39:30 UTC  

@Katherine that is not true. Workers can be their own masters without the need for a state

2017-08-06 04:39:34 UTC  

Once scarcity is gone we don't need any form of currency

2017-08-06 04:39:42 UTC  

@Марко example?

2017-08-06 04:40:04 UTC  

Scarcity will never be gone, but resources can be conserved.

2017-08-06 04:40:08 UTC  

Revolutionary Catalonia, Paris Commune, etc

2017-08-06 04:40:10 UTC  

@Марко A non-worker comes to the factory and wants to use it to make a different kind of toy than the workers want. What happens?

2017-08-06 04:40:18 UTC  

The Ukranian Free Territory

2017-08-06 04:40:23 UTC  

Scarcity can be gone

2017-08-06 04:40:39 UTC  

Explain why you think that

2017-08-06 04:40:42 UTC  

And btw everything you mentioned weren't anarchist

2017-08-06 04:40:52 UTC  

@Katherine if he labors to make the toy then he is a worker

2017-08-06 04:41:06 UTC  

And thus owns the MOP along with the other workers

2017-08-06 04:41:10 UTC  

Rather simple

2017-08-06 04:41:17 UTC  

NAP

2017-08-06 04:41:20 UTC  

@Марко He wasn't laboring before. He came into the factory, shoved other workers aside, and began to make toys.

2017-08-06 04:41:24 UTC  

reminds me of ancaps

2017-08-06 04:41:41 UTC  

How do you "shove them aside"

2017-08-06 04:41:46 UTC  

Lol what

2017-08-06 04:41:46 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/314649062928547840/343614608214327316/image.jpg

2017-08-06 04:41:47 UTC  

Do the other workers no longer own the factory because they were forced to stop working?

2017-08-06 04:41:57 UTC  

Anarchism in general

2017-08-06 04:42:00 UTC  

Who forced them to stop working?

2017-08-06 04:42:10 UTC  

The person who wanted to make a different thing who wasn't working before

2017-08-06 04:42:14 UTC  

We'll call them Person A

2017-08-06 04:42:29 UTC  

Aha, attack the capitalist, not me

2017-08-06 04:42:49 UTC  

Marxist-Leninists are Capitalists though (^:

2017-08-06 04:43:06 UTC  

haaaaaaaaaaa ^

2017-08-06 04:43:20 UTC  

The individual is free to individually own their own MOP if the workers of an existing factory do not wish to make the same toy as him @Katherine

2017-08-06 04:43:25 UTC  

All anarchists are capitalist xxxxxxddddd

2017-08-06 04:43:35 UTC  

I can say something ridiculous like that

2017-08-06 04:43:47 UTC  

And get away with it as any anarchist

2017-08-06 04:43:47 UTC  

MLs are state capitalists

2017-08-06 04:43:53 UTC  

It's not ridiculous

2017-08-06 04:44:00 UTC  

It's a meme

2017-08-06 04:44:10 UTC  

"Muh State capitalism"

2017-08-06 04:44:30 UTC  

In regards to Marxism Leninism it is true

2017-08-06 04:45:02 UTC  

You can't argue with someone who denies reality