Message from @Caeser

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2019-12-21 23:52:12 UTC  
2019-12-21 23:52:12 UTC  

LOL

2019-12-21 23:52:15 UTC  

so the idea is that

2019-12-21 23:52:22 UTC  

you can't even wrap your head around the answer to the problem of evil

2019-12-21 23:52:23 UTC  

it is impossible for him to not give freedom

2019-12-21 23:52:30 UTC  

No you cant explain evil

2019-12-21 23:52:31 UTC  

If God can take Free Will and he has only given it to us so we can obey his rules are we not essentially in a perpetual state of tyranny?

2019-12-21 23:52:32 UTC  

religion is still a dominant force on earth

2019-12-21 23:52:34 UTC  

i can

2019-12-21 23:52:36 UTC  

evil is the privation of good

2019-12-21 23:52:39 UTC  

augustine did it ages ago

2019-12-21 23:52:45 UTC  

Exactly lizar, but I wanted the religious people to come to it

2019-12-21 23:52:51 UTC  

God didn't give freewill to only obey him originally

2019-12-21 23:53:01 UTC  

and usual atheist ignores the answer

2019-12-21 23:53:03 UTC  

When he gave freewill he gave it on a perfect world where sinning was impossible

2019-12-21 23:53:07 UTC  

until man messed it up

2019-12-21 23:53:12 UTC  

They cant square god with free will because the two are incompatible <:shrug:349342983763656705>

2019-12-21 23:53:12 UTC  

perhaps it did not understand what privation means

2019-12-21 23:53:13 UTC  

and God had to take drastic measures

2019-12-21 23:53:14 UTC  

you mean eden?

2019-12-21 23:53:17 UTC  

yes

2019-12-21 23:53:22 UTC  

um

2019-12-21 23:53:24 UTC  

oh boi

2019-12-21 23:53:30 UTC  

Eden was the ideal place for people to exsist in a moral sense

2019-12-21 23:53:33 UTC  

The story of Eden doesn't make sense either though

2019-12-21 23:53:33 UTC  

first, eden was on earth

2019-12-21 23:53:35 UTC  

God cannot be omnibenevolent if he has created all evil and done evil acts for the fuck of it

2019-12-21 23:53:39 UTC  

it was its own area

2019-12-21 23:53:40 UTC  

^

2019-12-21 23:53:44 UTC  

God is omnibenevolent in his grace

2019-12-21 23:53:45 UTC  

Exactly Tubby

2019-12-21 23:53:45 UTC  

God did not create evil

2019-12-21 23:53:50 UTC  

He created good things

2019-12-21 23:53:52 UTC  

and gave them a choice

2019-12-21 23:53:53 UTC  

false

2019-12-21 23:53:56 UTC  

it is on them if they choose wrong

2019-12-21 23:54:04 UTC  

Even satan was once an angel

2019-12-21 23:54:05 UTC  

god created evil as part of the balance

2019-12-21 23:54:09 UTC  

no

2019-12-21 23:54:10 UTC  

The onus is not on me to prove that god does not exist, the onus is on you to prove that he does and justify if he is all powerful why he allows evil in the world <:shrug:349342983763656705>

2019-12-21 23:54:15 UTC  

look at the days of creation