Message from @Caeser
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Exactly lizar, but I wanted the religious people to come to it
God didn't give freewill to only obey him originally
and usual atheist ignores the answer
When he gave freewill he gave it on a perfect world where sinning was impossible
until man messed it up
They cant square god with free will because the two are incompatible <:shrug:349342983763656705>
perhaps it did not understand what privation means
and God had to take drastic measures
you mean eden?
yes
um
oh boi
Eden was the ideal place for people to exsist in a moral sense
The story of Eden doesn't make sense either though
first, eden was on earth
God cannot be omnibenevolent if he has created all evil and done evil acts for the fuck of it
it was its own area
^
God is omnibenevolent in his grace
Exactly Tubby
He created good things
and gave them a choice
false
it is on them if they choose wrong
Even satan was once an angel
god created evil as part of the balance
no
The onus is not on me to prove that god does not exist, the onus is on you to prove that he does and justify if he is all powerful why he allows evil in the world <:shrug:349342983763656705>
look at the days of creation
No the bible teaches that god did not create evil divinity
everything had a balance of 2 things
i've already said about evil
1) original sin
2) evil is the privation of good
then you have ontological teleological and cosmological arguments
Well that is a bit of a stalemate storin since both things are impossible to prove at least by one man alone
but you don't pay attention
because atheism is a cult
of retards
The natural state is god does not exist, and you must show that he does but also not only his inability to deal with evil but also explain the hundreds of other gods and pantheons there of
No
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