Message from @Caeser

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2019-12-21 23:51:37 UTC  

go read aquinas

2019-12-21 23:51:40 UTC  

FBI has been informed on Quinn

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2019-12-21 23:51:43 UTC  

So if he can take it you are not free <:PepeLaugh:565528391336329216>

2019-12-21 23:51:49 UTC  

atheists make me <:pepelaugh:544857300179877898>

2019-12-21 23:51:59 UTC  

what if its like the witcher god, but split up

2019-12-21 23:52:01 UTC  

God can take freedom but he WOULDNT

2019-12-21 23:52:07 UTC  

Religious people are legitimately stupid dude, you don't get to laugh at athiests <:shrug:349342983763656705>

2019-12-21 23:52:10 UTC  

you dont understand being perfect is a property of God

2019-12-21 23:52:12 UTC  
2019-12-21 23:52:12 UTC  

LOL

2019-12-21 23:52:15 UTC  

so the idea is that

2019-12-21 23:52:22 UTC  

you can't even wrap your head around the answer to the problem of evil

2019-12-21 23:52:23 UTC  

it is impossible for him to not give freedom

2019-12-21 23:52:30 UTC  

No you cant explain evil

2019-12-21 23:52:31 UTC  

If God can take Free Will and he has only given it to us so we can obey his rules are we not essentially in a perpetual state of tyranny?

2019-12-21 23:52:32 UTC  

religion is still a dominant force on earth

2019-12-21 23:52:34 UTC  

i can

2019-12-21 23:52:36 UTC  

evil is the privation of good

2019-12-21 23:52:39 UTC  

augustine did it ages ago

2019-12-21 23:52:45 UTC  

Exactly lizar, but I wanted the religious people to come to it

2019-12-21 23:52:51 UTC  

God didn't give freewill to only obey him originally

2019-12-21 23:53:01 UTC  

and usual atheist ignores the answer

2019-12-21 23:53:03 UTC  

When he gave freewill he gave it on a perfect world where sinning was impossible

2019-12-21 23:53:07 UTC  

until man messed it up

2019-12-21 23:53:12 UTC  

They cant square god with free will because the two are incompatible <:shrug:349342983763656705>

2019-12-21 23:53:12 UTC  

perhaps it did not understand what privation means

2019-12-21 23:53:13 UTC  

and God had to take drastic measures

2019-12-21 23:53:14 UTC  

you mean eden?

2019-12-21 23:53:17 UTC  

yes

2019-12-21 23:53:22 UTC  

um

2019-12-21 23:53:24 UTC  

oh boi

2019-12-21 23:53:30 UTC  

Eden was the ideal place for people to exsist in a moral sense

2019-12-21 23:53:33 UTC  

The story of Eden doesn't make sense either though

2019-12-21 23:53:33 UTC  

first, eden was on earth

2019-12-21 23:53:35 UTC  

God cannot be omnibenevolent if he has created all evil and done evil acts for the fuck of it

2019-12-21 23:53:39 UTC  

it was its own area

2019-12-21 23:53:40 UTC  

^

2019-12-21 23:53:44 UTC  

God is omnibenevolent in his grace

2019-12-21 23:53:45 UTC  

Exactly Tubby

2019-12-21 23:53:45 UTC  

God did not create evil

2019-12-21 23:53:50 UTC  

He created good things