It is all churches

So all churches are Catholic chuches

Rad

There's a difference between the Church Catholic (Universal) and the Roman Catholic Church

Not really

The officials name of the Orthodox church is the Orthodox Catholic church is it not?

It is, but they are in schism so they aren't Catholic

What makes you so sure Rome isnt the one in schism

Because it's always been regarded as superior

It was 'persecuted' by the Byzantines because it wouldn't submit

That's why the east disavowed it at first

Was it viewed that way for theologically justified reasons?

Or was it for political ones

Given its proximity to the major powers of Europe

Which gave it infinitely more influence

Especially because their communications weren't translated from Greek, which often lead to misinterpretation which lead to tension

It was theological mostly

```Irenaeus of Lyons believed in the second century that Peter and Paul had been the founders of the Church in Rome and had appointed Linus as succeeding bishop```

Then we had the papacy preaching papal supremacy of course

Read the thing I quoted on the Council of Nicea as well

But is it not cited that the first stage of the Schism began because of the Catholic Church closing down Churches of the Byzantine Rite in what is composed of contemporary Italy, which resulted in the Ecumenical Patriarch of Constantinople to excommunicate them in return.

Was I pinged?

@Perception Religion daily question

What is your view on what *is* hell?

Oh so its because of the role i have

Hell, for sure, isn’t the boiling cauldron that’s commonly depicted in most media.

```On July 16, 1054, Patriarch of Constantinople Michael Cerularius was excommunicated from the Christian church based in Rome, Italy. This excommunication severed the largest faction of Christianity, called Chalcedonian Christianity. The split is known as the Great Schism```

It’s something we can’t discern.

Conflicts happened way earlier

It's described that there will be great weeping and gnashing of teeth, so it'll be horrible. Most important is that it is eternal separation from God until the Lake of Fire when Jesus comes again-where it will again be separation from God.

Honestly, I don't see how some Orthodox Bishops see hell as temporary

everything I can find makes it pretty clear that Hell is eternal

That’s their individual perspectives, though I’m sure they’d likely explain why in full.

But remember that the core tenet is that God does not send you to Hell, you send yourself to it.

You ultimately went because you turned down the gift of Heaven.

CS Lewis wrote a book about it in an anecdotal fashion.

A problem is that is that an individual of his own natural will cannot "choose" heaven

One can only turn down the gift of Grace that is freely given

That’s correct, I should’ve worded it more efficiently.

There.

@Simp hell is temporary because hell is thrown into the lake of fire