Message from @Eoppa
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I dont
That'd be an unfortunate revelation.
I agree that there is no basis for it lmao
That's why I became Orthodox
I was from birth.
Specifically the Belarusian Orthodox Church.
Nice
I was an atheist for the majority of my life
Was quite unfortunate
When I asked my Pastor about church supremacy or whatever the concept that the church founded on a rock thing, he said it was referencing the holy church which encompasses all churches loyal to God, not a single denomination
```In the Letters of the Second Ecumenical Council of Nicea, the Roman Church is referred to as the "head of all churches" twice; at the same time it affirms Christ to be the head of the Church, and the Apostle Peter is referred to as the "chief [of the] Apostles" – but when listed with Paul they are together referred to as the "chief apostles."```
Catholic literally means universal
It is all churches
So all churches are Catholic chuches
Rad
There's a difference between the Church Catholic (Universal) and the Roman Catholic Church
Not really
The officials name of the Orthodox church is the Orthodox Catholic church is it not?
It is, but they are in schism so they aren't Catholic
What makes you so sure Rome isnt the one in schism
It was 'persecuted' by the Byzantines because it wouldn't submit
That's why the east disavowed it at first
Was it viewed that way for theologically justified reasons?
Or was it for political ones
Given its proximity to the major powers of Europe
Which gave it infinitely more influence
Especially because their communications weren't translated from Greek, which often lead to misinterpretation which lead to tension
It was theological mostly
```Irenaeus of Lyons believed in the second century that Peter and Paul had been the founders of the Church in Rome and had appointed Linus as succeeding bishop```
Then we had the papacy preaching papal supremacy of course
Read the thing I quoted on the Council of Nicea as well
But is it not cited that the first stage of the Schism began because of the Catholic Church closing down Churches of the Byzantine Rite in what is composed of contemporary Italy, which resulted in the Ecumenical Patriarch of Constantinople to excommunicate them in return.
Was I pinged?
@Perception Religion daily question
What is your view on what *is* hell?
Oh so its because of the role i have
Hell, for sure, isn’t the boiling cauldron that’s commonly depicted in most media.
```On July 16, 1054, Patriarch of Constantinople Michael Cerularius was excommunicated from the Christian church based in Rome, Italy. This excommunication severed the largest faction of Christianity, called Chalcedonian Christianity. The split is known as the Great Schism```
It’s something we can’t discern.
Conflicts happened way earlier