Perception

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<:Wojak:552578579234291763>

2019-08-15 20:57:07 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

<:merchant:604761010326470676>

2019-08-15 21:06:19 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

The state should be ruled in accordance with religion, namely Islam

2019-08-15 21:06:39 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

<:smug:591181720565579807>

2019-08-15 21:07:11 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

do you mean why Islam or why theocracy?

2019-08-15 21:08:11 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

theocracy is based if its the right religion

2019-08-15 21:09:08 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

terrorists aren't specific to one ideology lol

2019-08-15 21:09:20 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

i imagine people would know this by now

2019-08-15 21:09:48 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

can you give me a solid reason to believe that

2019-08-15 21:09:55 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

other than "its a cult"

2019-08-15 21:10:22 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

thats nothing to do with Islam as an ideology

2019-08-15 21:10:30 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

that's to do with its followers maybe

2019-08-15 21:10:36 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

in some parts of the world where there is war

2019-08-15 21:11:24 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

Islam hasn't changed which makes it true traditionalism maybe but then that becomes a question of why traditionalism is wrong

2019-08-15 21:11:56 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

also if we're discussing Islam then what Muslims do/subjectively want is irrelevant in this

2019-08-15 21:12:26 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

Yes but traditionalism isn't necessarily bad

2019-08-15 21:13:22 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

the killing of homosexuals is if its done publicly, I don't think anyone likes to see two people having intercourse in public

2019-08-15 21:13:39 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

its done to protect society from degeneracy

2019-08-15 21:14:01 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

if you're gay then you can continue being gay as long as you keep it behind closed doors

2019-08-15 21:14:09 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

no one has any right to spy on you either

2019-08-15 21:14:56 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

The issue today is that the middle east isn't actually ruled according to Islamic law

2019-08-15 21:15:16 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

they take certain aspects of it and apply it, but in reality its secular

2019-08-15 21:15:45 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

I'm not making the commie excuse of "its never been applied" if thats what you're implying

2019-08-15 21:16:05 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

If you want to know Islamic law then look at the previous caliphates that applied Islamic law

2019-08-15 21:16:23 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

Ottomans, Ummayads, Abbasids and the list goes on

2019-08-15 21:17:01 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

Ottomans for example had many non Muslims living under them

2019-08-15 21:17:13 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

many cities had non Muslim majority

2019-08-15 21:17:36 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

if they were so oppressed living under the Muslims then how did they last for hundreds of years

2019-08-15 21:18:44 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

Anatolia was ruled by the Ottomans for hundreds of years yet had non Muslim majority in many parts

2019-08-15 22:21:41 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

so ethnocentric?

2019-08-15 23:08:42 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

race and belief are linked?

you're the 3rd 663rd

that means you should leave twice

2019-08-15 23:14:38 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

can you give an example of a heritable belief?

military invention

<:Wojak:552578579234291763>

lol we've had 6 663rd members

we have some more 663rd users

we need 2 people to leave to ensure we get more 663rds

cus 663 has already been chosen as the special number

The issue of Muslims hating Jews hasn't always existed

It was the Jews that started the whole issue

They used to live under the Muslims just fine for centuries and then suddenly betrayed them

The Jewish homeland didn't even exist before

it was the Jews that made the agreement with the British to take Palestine from the Ottomans and give it to the Jews

over 1000 years of living under Muslims

and that's how they repay them

They still have more right to the land than the Jews

They didn't take the land through deceptive means

and at least we know that they would allow Christians and Jews to live with freedom of religion and low taxation

As they have done since 637

I agree completely that the Israel vs Palestine narrative is futile

Which is why I am for the third option, which is to return it to its previous state

However I don't see why it would be wrong to spill blood in the pursuit of that goal

Blood that would otherwise be spilt anyway

2019-08-18 21:49:40 UTC [Rhetoric โ„ข #general]  

dead

2019-08-18 21:49:41 UTC [Rhetoric โ„ข #general]  

server

2019-08-18 21:50:01 UTC [Rhetoric โ„ข #general]  

lol

2019-08-18 21:50:11 UTC [Rhetoric โ„ข #general]  

>is a mod on a debate server
>debating is gay

that's the third option

2019-08-18 22:42:42 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

I doubt it

2019-08-18 23:02:41 UTC [Rhetoric โ„ข #general]  

this server is gay

2019-08-18 23:02:44 UTC [Rhetoric โ„ข #general]  

debating is cool and good

2019-08-18 23:03:38 UTC [Rhetoric โ„ข #general]  

and if you respond and disagree with this statement then you are debating and hence coming out as gay

2019-08-18 23:03:55 UTC [Rhetoric โ„ข #general]  

<:bigbrain:437581979689549860>

no I want it in the hands of those who would honour it

definitely not the sauds

arabia needs to be rid of the secular and the extreme and returned to what it was before

we're about to reach 666 members

we need more people to leave so we can get back to 663

on an individual level or societal?

2019-08-19 03:29:35 UTC [Rhetoric โ„ข #general]  

no you'll

2019-08-19 03:29:42 UTC [Rhetoric โ„ข #general]  

@Reptar debate what

K fair enough, both are bad

if its bad for the individual its bad for society

2019-08-19 03:55:50 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

Any fascists here able to explain why ethnicity is more valuable than ideology?

2019-08-19 04:41:31 UTC [Rhetoric โ„ข #general]  

@Reptar whats your opinion on it?

ban intoxicants

except for medical purposes

All bad for both individual and society

2019-08-19 18:43:20 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

religion is the only solution

2019-08-19 18:43:35 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

however idk about the claim that gen z will be the one to fix it

2019-08-19 18:43:51 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

gen z has been brought up being educated and entertained by millennials

2019-08-19 18:44:01 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

majority of them have been brought up with liberal ideals

2019-08-19 18:47:09 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

hence the "nazi" traps

2019-08-19 18:48:04 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

didnt the one on the left end up dying

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