Message from @Jack of Trades

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2019-09-30 04:29:31 UTC  

That's *exactly* what I was doing xD

2019-09-30 04:29:37 UTC  

God damn you are a dumb nigger

2019-09-30 04:29:44 UTC  

@Uksio Bruh

2019-09-30 04:29:51 UTC  

Now I'm gonna feel like that stop

2019-09-30 04:30:15 UTC  

Bruh, It's a hair from my own beard, don't get ideas now

2019-09-30 04:30:24 UTC  

I sucked it up with the tea by accident

2019-09-30 04:30:34 UTC  

Gross

2019-09-30 04:30:56 UTC  

@Cryosite i believe that there are forces outside of our knowledge, inside the woods, the woods being a place that is wilderness and 'other', like someone poisoned the water source or something, that effects the real world, and i have no idea why my water is poisoned

2019-09-30 04:31:11 UTC  

that sort of vein

2019-09-30 04:31:18 UTC  

imagine if your dentist operated on microtransactions

2019-09-30 04:31:36 UTC  

That doesn't match my description.

2019-09-30 04:31:50 UTC  

Like your gender

2019-09-30 04:31:50 UTC  

why not think of them as 'otherwordly beings' that fuck with people, because we dont know what exactly the cause of certain occurrences are exactly

2019-09-30 04:31:51 UTC  

@Cryosite See what I mean? Idiot

2019-09-30 04:32:06 UTC  

rood words

2019-09-30 04:33:52 UTC  

if we're just going to say 'ive never sensed any physical evidence that a thing is as real as a tree is' thats the conversation about the literal

2019-09-30 04:33:57 UTC  

just as bad as the bible thumpers

2019-09-30 04:34:14 UTC  

laws arent real

2019-09-30 04:34:25 UTC  

ideas arent real

2019-09-30 04:34:29 UTC  

*sigh*

2019-09-30 04:34:30 UTC  

Autism

2019-09-30 04:34:39 UTC  

only how people behave knowing they are ideas

2019-09-30 04:34:45 UTC  

and so we act like theyre real things

2019-09-30 04:35:03 UTC  

unless you want to point to a book and say 'see, laws are real'

2019-09-30 04:35:07 UTC  

But noone cares about that

2019-09-30 04:35:13 UTC  

i cant touch the laws

2019-09-30 04:35:15 UTC  

like a tree

2019-09-30 04:35:19 UTC  

Literally noone

2019-09-30 04:35:33 UTC  

Anyway. Ultimately the conversation goes back and forth a few times like this.

Empiricism and rationalism both have good points. I lean well into empiricism. Most theists go pretty hard into rationalism, if they're at all intelligent.

2019-09-30 04:35:43 UTC  

The worry is the people that DO think it's literal and why.

2019-09-30 04:36:02 UTC  

its not either or

2019-09-30 04:36:14 UTC  

Both have things to offer to good conversation, but the conflicts between them generate impasse at times.

2019-09-30 04:36:20 UTC  

empirically speaking, capitalism is the better way to behave as if its the truth

2019-09-30 04:36:30 UTC  

just like drinking and eating is 'the truth'

2019-09-30 04:36:45 UTC  

but capitalism isnt real, only people acting as if it is

2019-09-30 04:37:04 UTC  

and yeah, yourd be pretty stupid to ignore empirical evidence

2019-09-30 04:37:21 UTC  

but you cant empirically prove a concept or an idea

2019-09-30 04:37:23 UTC  

And stupid to ignore rationalism entirely.

2019-09-30 04:39:13 UTC  

Still can’t prove a negative🤷‍♂️

2019-09-30 04:39:15 UTC  

always the atheists problem is they see noahs arc and think its not true and therefore should be disregarded, instead of looking at it like a helpful story

2019-09-30 04:39:32 UTC  

@Scale_e The lack thereof is why I'm 100% certain