Message from @You are tearing me apart lisa
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I wasn't stating things aren't negative, and that they aren't something to overcome. But proving yourself to someone is a much more permanent way of getting rid of someone's judgement about you. Crying and complaining till they give you what you want isn't ever a solid foundation for someone to take you seriously.
Oh I agree
Totally
I also agree, but I think there is a difference between proving yourself to someone while being against crying and saying that gypsies should be nailed onto the wall
*walling the gypsies off
I'd just sooner have there be no unnecessary prejudice against somebody based on, say, skin colour. If somebody has an initial low estimation of you I'd sooner it be over things that are indicative of your individual character i.e. your manner of dress, if you're well groomed, etc. All still a little superficial but you know
I think that gypsies shouldnt be nailed to a wall.
Save that for the frenchies.
heh
I'm going home to see my family
We were gonna have a barbeque like you guys. . .
cool
The fuck!?
thank god for that clarification
And I thought our server had a good gate on it
Good job 👏👏
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ah shit
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wot
why do people keep putting links
nowhere else to put them i guess
for some people here
@Belisarius its hard to imagine a foreign name equating to anything besides the migration of people. But I supposed you are right, maybe her parents just picked the name Yasmin Alibhai at random and it has nothing to do with being derived from a foreign culture.
you can like
not be so snarky lmao
But I guess one would first have to accept that there is a historical context to a british identity, least their is no foundation for calling anything foriegn.
what I *meant* was that you were equating-- falsely-- immigration with neoliberalism. Clearly, there was immigration before neoliberalism. Does neoliberalism facilitate *mass* immigration? Yeah, it can of course. But then again, there were also muslims and sikhs living as a small minority in Victorian Britain. What I'm trying to say is laying the immigration of any "suspected foreigner" and their subsequent existence as a British citizen/resident of the UK on the feet of neoliberalism strikes me as wrong. Indeed, it strikes me as vaguely prejudiced
I'd also like to point out that you don't know the first thing of what I believe, or that I disagree that the British identity lacks a historical context. Of course it has one.
Honestly I think my main conceit is that while I'm on "your side", or Sargon's "side" it seems like there's also a lot of really fucking lazy arguments for this side that need to be reevaluated. Its like half of us lost the plot on what *we* believe in our haste to react to what the other side says.
You bring up some solid points, Ill try to get back to you when I can.
And I don't mean to sound gatekeeper-y there. its hardly my place to be arbiter of good and bad arguments but its certainly my right to point out potential problems i guess
alright man, take care
oh shit