so if you just say 'fuck it just dont eat that youll be fine'

*Actual* rights are built on baseline assumptions, but if you disagree on those fundamental assumptions, as Doom does, you'll find the concept irrelevant.

youll have more people living if its not allowed

pretty much yes

agreement of the fundamentals

the way i see it is that some modes of being are more effective than others

aka, cultures being better or worse

pretty much: as I said, I'm annoyed by the anthropology they come from, not by them in and of themselves

and so the ones that are exceeding are doing more things 'correct' than not

its like democracy via bodycount over a million years

Indeed

or like in Fallout with their vault tests

I find the assumptions are useful, and good even, but I do see where you come from on the matter Doom. Even if I think that removing the basis of society without a strong (as of yet undiscovered) moral basis to be no good.

they give each vault a set of rules, and monitor which ones are more successful

well, you can have interdependent but distinct game plans that operate as the 'optimal' game plan withing a give nsystem

thats always the problem

Except they don't monitor anything because they are all dead

game theory allows for different game plans to be viable

show me other viable game plans that dont result in more suffering than Christian/Capitalistic/Free Marketry

i dont see it anywhere

Game theory is the guy that is a cuck, right?

thieves have a game plan that relies on other ppl not stealing, but their game plan IS good, as long as they are not too big a part of the population

and they dont succeed as often as fair traders with repeat interactions

and they cause suffering to others

ehh\

depends

As long as we don't wander back into the "Taxes are automatically theft" territory again. >.>

by the way, im interested by Anarcho societal systems

so im not boldly against you on this

Sup

Interested, yes, but it's a question of viability, TBH @Boop / 브파 / C'thUwU

correct

suffering sure, but we're assuming this matters because? I'm not trying to defend raiding as a viable alternative to modern finance capitalism... I'm trying to say that it is not true that reality converges to a single, moral true path as some sort of progressive destiny

at least I don;t see why it would

suffering as about as real as anything we experience

seems like its pretty real when its happening to you

wat?

so minimizing it seems the be the best option for a happy population

and a successful one

why is a happy population your goal? also: bs, work is hard, work is necessary to maintain a good standard of living.

btfoed