Message from @Boop / 브파 / C'thUwU

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2019-09-07 19:21:37 UTC  

game theory allows for different game plans to be viable

2019-09-07 19:22:06 UTC  

show me other viable game plans that dont result in more suffering than Christian/Capitalistic/Free Marketry

2019-09-07 19:22:24 UTC  

i dont see it anywhere

2019-09-07 19:22:26 UTC  

Game theory is the guy that is a cuck, right?

2019-09-07 19:22:28 UTC  

thieves have a game plan that relies on other ppl not stealing, but their game plan IS good, as long as they are not too big a part of the population

2019-09-07 19:22:54 UTC  

and they dont succeed as often as fair traders with repeat interactions

2019-09-07 19:22:59 UTC  

and they cause suffering to others

2019-09-07 19:23:02 UTC  

ehh\

2019-09-07 19:23:04 UTC  

depends

2019-09-07 19:23:09 UTC  

As long as we don't wander back into the "Taxes are automatically theft" territory again. >.>

2019-09-07 19:23:26 UTC  

by the way, im interested by Anarcho societal systems

2019-09-07 19:23:41 UTC  

so im not boldly against you on this

2019-09-07 19:23:53 UTC  

Sup

2019-09-07 19:24:01 UTC  

Interested, yes, but it's a question of viability, TBH @Boop / 브파 / C'thUwU

2019-09-07 19:24:07 UTC  

correct

2019-09-07 19:24:22 UTC  

suffering sure, but we're assuming this matters because? I'm not trying to defend raiding as a viable alternative to modern finance capitalism... I'm trying to say that it is not true that reality converges to a single, moral true path as some sort of progressive destiny

2019-09-07 19:24:52 UTC  

at least I don;t see why it would

2019-09-07 19:25:02 UTC  

suffering as about as real as anything we experience

2019-09-07 19:25:14 UTC  

seems like its pretty real when its happening to you

2019-09-07 19:25:22 UTC  

wat?

2019-09-07 19:25:23 UTC  

so minimizing it seems the be the best option for a happy population

2019-09-07 19:25:34 UTC  

and a successful one

2019-09-07 19:25:52 UTC  

why is a happy population your goal? also: bs, work is hard, work is necessary to maintain a good standard of living.

2019-09-07 19:25:56 UTC  

btfoed

2019-09-07 19:26:08 UTC  

because its a matter of sacrificing

2019-09-07 19:26:22 UTC  

id rather sacrifice willingly a little, than sacrifice nothing and suffer immeasurably

2019-09-07 19:26:23 UTC  

I mean, this is standard utilitarian argumentation

2019-09-07 19:26:29 UTC  

I really have no patience for it

2019-09-07 19:26:51 UTC  

I just don't agree with your fundamental premise of suffering bad, and/or pleasure good

2019-09-07 19:26:52 UTC  

i should rephrase from 'happy' population to 'least suffering' population

2019-09-07 19:27:10 UTC  

@Tonight at 11 - DOOM it's the resposnibility in hard work which gives life meaning creating happiness

2019-09-07 19:27:12 UTC  

pretty apparent minimal suffering is what every single person would like

2019-09-07 19:27:17 UTC  

Equipping the population to handle suffering is more viable than avoiding suffering.

2019-09-07 19:27:25 UTC  

maybe to you

2019-09-07 19:27:30 UTC  

I find that it's nonsense

2019-09-07 19:27:46 UTC  

you find it nonsense that people want to be in pain the minimal amount possible?

2019-09-07 19:27:52 UTC  

ill keep that in mind in my next torture session

2019-09-07 19:28:01 UTC  

Because hedonism is no good, and that's what seems to be the argument in favor of.

2019-09-07 19:28:03 UTC  

ppl who are provided for and live in luxury are not happy

2019-09-07 19:28:25 UTC  

they don't feel like they are worth anything

2019-09-07 19:28:30 UTC  

again: false anthropology