i dont see it anywhere

Game theory is the guy that is a cuck, right?

thieves have a game plan that relies on other ppl not stealing, but their game plan IS good, as long as they are not too big a part of the population

and they dont succeed as often as fair traders with repeat interactions

and they cause suffering to others

ehh\

depends

As long as we don't wander back into the "Taxes are automatically theft" territory again. >.>

by the way, im interested by Anarcho societal systems

so im not boldly against you on this

Sup

Interested, yes, but it's a question of viability, TBH @Boop / 브파 / C'thUwU

correct

suffering sure, but we're assuming this matters because? I'm not trying to defend raiding as a viable alternative to modern finance capitalism... I'm trying to say that it is not true that reality converges to a single, moral true path as some sort of progressive destiny

at least I don;t see why it would

suffering as about as real as anything we experience

seems like its pretty real when its happening to you

wat?

so minimizing it seems the be the best option for a happy population

and a successful one

why is a happy population your goal? also: bs, work is hard, work is necessary to maintain a good standard of living.

btfoed

because its a matter of sacrificing

id rather sacrifice willingly a little, than sacrifice nothing and suffer immeasurably

I mean, this is standard utilitarian argumentation

I really have no patience for it

I just don't agree with your fundamental premise of suffering bad, and/or pleasure good

i should rephrase from 'happy' population to 'least suffering' population

@Tonight at 11 - DOOM it's the resposnibility in hard work which gives life meaning creating happiness

pretty apparent minimal suffering is what every single person would like

Equipping the population to handle suffering is more viable than avoiding suffering.

maybe to you

I find that it's nonsense

you find it nonsense that people want to be in pain the minimal amount possible?

ill keep that in mind in my next torture session

Because hedonism is no good, and that's what seems to be the argument in favor of.

ppl who are provided for and live in luxury are not happy

they don't feel like they are worth anything

again: false anthropology

Personally, I want my suffering to count for *something*. As suffering is literally part and parcel of life.

have you ever gone a year or 2 without work and with all your needs tended to?