It's allowed for one to worship God through an intermediary. It's not desirable, but it's allowed.

What's most important is following the morals. Every religion has a core set of morals they all agree with each other on.

well, as long as the person knows that there is one God, that to me would be the most important. but if it is true, they will find out someday!

yes, absitively

will you take a moment to look at one small passage where Krishna deliniates the differences between a Godly and a Demonaic being?

There is an ancient heresy called antinomianism, which has been reheated as grace theology, that says that if you try to be moral then you're trying to be perfect and only Christ was perfect, so you're rejecting Him

If you'd like

take a look here one second while i find the passage https://krishna.org/the-homosexual-appetite-of-a-man-for-another-man-is-demoniac/

Because coming closer to God requires following Him, grace theology utterly destroys the ability of people to ever get out of heresy

mind you, I'm not a "hare krishna" member or anything like that.

hare krishna to me translates to something like "hail Christ" in Christianity terms

"The Supreme Divine Personality said: O scion of Bharat, these are the saintly virtues of those endowed with a divine nature—fearlessness, purity of mind, steadfastness in spiritual knowledge, charity, control of the senses, performance of sacrifice, study of the sacred books, austerity, and straightforwardness; non-violence, truthfulness, absence of anger, renunciation, peacefulness, restraint from fault-finding, compassion toward all living beings, absence of covetousness, gentleness, modesty, and lack of fickleness; vigor, forgiveness, fortitude, cleanliness, bearing enmity toward none, and absence of vanity. "

and the Demonic nature:

"O Parth, the qualities of those who possess a demoniac nature are hypocrisy, arrogance, conceit, anger, harshness, and ignorance.The divine qualities lead to liberation, while the demoniac qualities are the cause for a continuing destiny of bondage. Grieve not, O Arjun, as you were born with saintly virtues. There are two kinds of beings in this world—those endowed with a divine nature and those possessing a demoniac nature. I have described the divine qualities in detail, O Arjun. Now hear from me about the demoniac nature. Those possessing a demoniac nature do not comprehend what actions are proper and what are improper. Hence, they possess neither purity, nor good conduct, nor even truthfulness. They say, “The world is without absolute truth, without any basis (for moral order), and without a God (who has created or is controlling it). It is created from the combination of the two sexes, and has no purpose other than sexual gratification.Holding fast to such views, these misdirected souls, with small intellect and cruel actions, arise as enemies of the world threatening its destruction.Harboring insatiable lust, full of hypocrisy, pride and arrogance, the demoniac cling to their false tenets. Thus illusioned, they are attracted to the impermanent and work with impure resolve. They are obsessed with endless anxieties that end only with death. Still, they maintain with complete assurance that gratification of desires and accumulation of wealth is the highest purpose of life. " https://www.holy-bhagavad-gita.org/chapter/16

this comes from times contemporary with the life of Jesus or perhaps 500 years before

It's a good summation. Particularly, standing against vanity (arrogance) and anger, which are really one and the same, i.e. being humble.

That's why Jesse's message is so powerful, because this is the most important character attribute to conquer

Jesse says it's a battle between good and evil, and it's right in line with these dare i say self evident truths.

If one has self, attachment, he can't correct any of the other flawed character attributes, because he can't accept feedback without becoming defensive

Without attachment to ego, there is nothing to defend

Krishna killed demons and kicked atheist butt. He said the atheists must be defeated due to unwanted progeny, and this was BC times

Atheists are by nature selfish, so they don't see the use for children, the problem solves itself

Their children are their spiritual children, the people who treat them as intellectual authorities

well without morals they will have a lot of unwanted kids.

i agree. i was mainly thinking of the erm... heathens

They just pull out and use contraception/abortion

i guess i meant 2500 years ago

but pulling out and all that stuff doesn't solve the problem of losing the respect of the woman

i mean today

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you do mean pulled pork sammiches right?

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there went my pignity

That was sad.

I definitely have no bidness discussing doctrine, i don't even hardly know what it means!

No one here has ever read the bible?

Sar is your man.

Ahh Sar has

I have read parts of the Bible, never completed it though

I know that Hake guy is busy but it would be cool to talk to him in VC sometime.

Yea @Hake come in VC more often

lol