Message from @J_G_

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2018-07-13 20:36:28 UTC  

yeah, sounds like Minneapolis, little Mogadishu

2018-07-13 20:37:03 UTC  

my theory is that socialist countries by nature cannot produce enough value, so they are forced to borrow money from world banks, and the world banks use the population to determine how much can be borrowed.

2018-07-13 20:37:44 UTC  

and it costs much more to be white, so white people choose not to reproduce until they have a nest egg that may or may not come.

2018-07-13 20:38:25 UTC  

many choose to be gay or use birth control, leading to predictable results

2018-07-13 20:38:28 UTC  

Socialism is state atheism. State atheism is a level of delusion that leads to punishing oneself with extremely bad decisions.

2018-07-13 20:39:06 UTC  

right, the state is their god. idolatry.

2018-07-13 20:41:11 UTC  

I have investigated hinduism, and prior to my doing so, I thought they were idol worshippers, but it is my finding that they are ultimately monotheistic but God in all his glory is literally too overwhelming and terrible to even conceive of, so they reach him through one or more of his qualities.

2018-07-13 20:43:09 UTC  

I believe in the legitimacy of the spiritual testimony of their sages. not that i disagree with the hebrew tradition, but i think something about sanskrit is nice and clear in contrast with aramaic, that would be my supposition.

2018-07-13 20:43:36 UTC  

how could we even begin to describe God or his works? I think there is room around the fire.

2018-07-13 20:43:46 UTC  

It's allowed for one to worship God through an intermediary. It's not desirable, but it's allowed.

2018-07-13 20:44:26 UTC  

What's most important is following the morals. Every religion has a core set of morals they all agree with each other on.

2018-07-13 20:44:32 UTC  

well, as long as the person knows that there is one God, that to me would be the most important. but if it is true, they will find out someday!

2018-07-13 20:44:47 UTC  

yes, absitively

2018-07-13 20:45:30 UTC  

will you take a moment to look at one small passage where Krishna deliniates the differences between a Godly and a Demonaic being?

2018-07-13 20:45:42 UTC  

There is an ancient heresy called antinomianism, which has been reheated as grace theology, that says that if you try to be moral then you're trying to be perfect and only Christ was perfect, so you're rejecting Him

2018-07-13 20:46:06 UTC  

If you'd like

2018-07-13 20:46:27 UTC  
2018-07-13 20:46:42 UTC  

Because coming closer to God requires following Him, grace theology utterly destroys the ability of people to ever get out of heresy

2018-07-13 20:48:12 UTC  

mind you, I'm not a "hare krishna" member or anything like that.

2018-07-13 20:48:46 UTC  

hare krishna to me translates to something like "hail Christ" in Christianity terms

2018-07-13 20:49:52 UTC  

"The Supreme Divine Personality said: O scion of Bharat, these are the saintly virtues of those endowed with a divine nature—fearlessness, purity of mind, steadfastness in spiritual knowledge, charity, control of the senses, performance of sacrifice, study of the sacred books, austerity, and straightforwardness; non-violence, truthfulness, absence of anger, renunciation, peacefulness, restraint from fault-finding, compassion toward all living beings, absence of covetousness, gentleness, modesty, and lack of fickleness; vigor, forgiveness, fortitude, cleanliness, bearing enmity toward none, and absence of vanity. "

2018-07-13 20:52:05 UTC  

and the Demonic nature:

"O Parth, the qualities of those who possess a demoniac nature are hypocrisy, arrogance, conceit, anger, harshness, and ignorance.The divine qualities lead to liberation, while the demoniac qualities are the cause for a continuing destiny of bondage. Grieve not, O Arjun, as you were born with saintly virtues. There are two kinds of beings in this world—those endowed with a divine nature and those possessing a demoniac nature. I have described the divine qualities in detail, O Arjun. Now hear from me about the demoniac nature. Those possessing a demoniac nature do not comprehend what actions are proper and what are improper. Hence, they possess neither purity, nor good conduct, nor even truthfulness. They say, “The world is without absolute truth, without any basis (for moral order), and without a God (who has created or is controlling it). It is created from the combination of the two sexes, and has no purpose other than sexual gratification.Holding fast to such views, these misdirected souls, with small intellect and cruel actions, arise as enemies of the world threatening its destruction.Harboring insatiable lust, full of hypocrisy, pride and arrogance, the demoniac cling to their false tenets. Thus illusioned, they are attracted to the impermanent and work with impure resolve. They are obsessed with endless anxieties that end only with death. Still, they maintain with complete assurance that gratification of desires and accumulation of wealth is the highest purpose of life. " https://www.holy-bhagavad-gita.org/chapter/16

2018-07-13 20:53:00 UTC  

this comes from times contemporary with the life of Jesus or perhaps 500 years before

2018-07-13 20:53:13 UTC  

It's a good summation. Particularly, standing against vanity (arrogance) and anger, which are really one and the same, i.e. being humble.

2018-07-13 20:53:38 UTC  

That's why Jesse's message is so powerful, because this is the most important character attribute to conquer

2018-07-13 20:54:07 UTC  

Jesse says it's a battle between good and evil, and it's right in line with these dare i say self evident truths.

2018-07-13 20:55:01 UTC  

If one has self, attachment, he can't correct any of the other flawed character attributes, because he can't accept feedback without becoming defensive

2018-07-13 20:55:07 UTC  

Without attachment to ego, there is nothing to defend

2018-07-13 20:55:14 UTC  

Krishna killed demons and kicked atheist butt. He said the atheists must be defeated due to unwanted progeny, and this was BC times

2018-07-13 20:55:58 UTC  

Atheists are by nature selfish, so they don't see the use for children, the problem solves itself

2018-07-13 20:56:15 UTC  

Their children are their spiritual children, the people who treat them as intellectual authorities

2018-07-13 20:56:20 UTC  

well without morals they will have a lot of unwanted kids.

2018-07-13 20:56:46 UTC  

i agree. i was mainly thinking of the erm... heathens

2018-07-13 20:59:00 UTC  

They just pull out and use contraception/abortion

2018-07-13 21:01:35 UTC  

i guess i meant 2500 years ago

2018-07-13 21:02:07 UTC  

but pulling out and all that stuff doesn't solve the problem of losing the respect of the woman

2018-07-13 21:02:26 UTC  

i mean today

2018-07-13 21:02:29 UTC  

👀

2018-07-13 21:02:50 UTC  

you do mean pulled pork sammiches right?

2018-07-13 21:03:33 UTC  

🐖

2018-07-13 21:03:53 UTC  

there went my pignity